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Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube

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While I'm not that interested in music discovery, I would definitely be interested in podcast discovery. I'd be interested in seeing what podcasts the people I follow on Twitter are listening to.

Yeah, I had the same thought as as well. As a start, are there any podcast here that people listen to and would highly recommend ? They can be dev-related but other topics is fine too. Any must listen suggestions/recommendations ?

KEXP has some nice music podcasts

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#52

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Apologies if I wasn't clear. I had meant the music providers "other than" Apple/Google/Amazon. (I believe Apple/Google/Amazon only provide discrete music downloads, rather than streaming services. Apologies if I had misconceptions about their service offerings)

Spotify has a $3 billion valuation as of last November. Pandora's value seems more in flux, but is probably somewhere in the 1-2 billion range. That doesn't seem to me like they're small fish compared to twitter. given how much valuations fluctuate (Pandora was at $4 billion as recently as 2011), I think they're all in the same bin. After all, Twitter's valuation is based on a less certain business model than the oth…

Wow I had no idea Spotify's valuation was that big. I stand corrected.

(Pandora is an interesting case, since they've publicly said that they're not going to be profitable for another 5 years...)

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#53

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There is a group of highly dissatisfied users (like me) who have found that current solutions are really inadequate. You'll have to trust me on this. Using suggestion models based on curated reputable crowdsourcing as opposed to simply volume of popularity is a way around this. Here's a contrived example; say I'm looking for something that goes well with say, Lonnie Smiths' 1980 "In the Park" ( http://www.youtube.com…

take a look at grooveshark its the best social music experience I've had

They also act like dicks and don't pay artists. :(

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57332246-261/grooveshark-e...

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/101311cc

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2012/120405grooves...

Re: Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has a $3 billion valuation as of last November. Pandora's value seems more in flux, but is probably somewhere in the 1-2 billion range. That doesn't seem to me like they're small fish compared to twitter. given how much valuations fluctuate (Pandora was at $4 billion as recently as 2011), I think they're all in the same bin. After all, Twitter's valuation is based on a less certain business model than the oth…

Wow I had no idea Spotify's valuation was that big. I stand corrected. (Pandora is an interesting case, since they've publicly said that they're not going to be profitable for another 5 years...)

Like I said, partnerships are on a more even footing than people that just consume the API.

Soundcloud is pretty big too.

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As a European who doesn't have a registered user for a lot of services, I would much prefer that we decided on some ID for a song or album, so we could refer to that one link (music://, etc.), and we would get a link for - or in this case a list - of the music as provided by services that * I actually use (have a user for/access to, etc.), * offer the music in my region A modern problem that really annoys me these da…

this is what the tomahawk project is attempting to do. you should check it out. http://www.tomahawk-player.org/

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It will fail as all other attempts at algorithmic music discovery have failed. Curation (via blogs, &c.) is still by far a better experience.

I'm listening to Pandora right now (I even pay for it!), does it not count?

Pandora is the best of a bad lot. They have an interesting approach, but any lengthy listen will reveal a lot of repetition; not because there's a tiny universe of music to recommend, but rather because they can't afford to troll the long tail (downloading stuff from Bandcamp, for instance). What works for Pandora is their curation, and the marginal cost of increasing inputs is more than they are willing to spend.

The last record I bought (a single by The Greys) I listened to on recommendation of a coworker, who's in a band that I like, who had played with some people who are playing a show with The Greys. I also like going to a local record store (Soundscapes) and just buying what the people who work there recommend. Nobody is currently capturing these signals; Facebook is obviously the one company that has access to perhaps a sufficiency of this data, but music recommendations are seemingly pretty small beer in the Zuckerbergian scheme of things.

The lack of a decent music (or film/TV) recommendation system looks a lot like a business opportunity, but I think that it's fundamentally not a business. Recommendations can drive business to a retail operation, but how do you sell recommendations qua recommendations?

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#59

While I'm not that interested in music discovery, I would definitely be interested in podcast discovery. I'd be interested in seeing what podcasts the people I follow on Twitter are listening to.

Yeah, I had the same thought as as well. As a start, are there any podcast here that people listen to and would highly recommend ? They can be dev-related but other topics is fine too. Any must listen suggestions/recommendations ?

The BBC's "In Our Time" [1], a weekly discussion of history, science, literature, culture -- brilliantly moderated by Sir Melvyn Bragg. Effortlessly intelligent and always entertaining.

[1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl

Re: Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube

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Do we really need another music app? How many of us are (or planning to) use Twitter for music discovery? For the average consumer, Spotify has just about everything for anyone. For the avid listener, there are hundreds of quality music blogs dedicated every niche out there. It seems like Twitter decided they wanted a slice of the pie- I fail to see how this could possibly fit into my use case for Twitter (if it's ev…

It will fail as all other attempts at algorithmic music discovery have failed. Curation (via blogs, &c.) is still by far a better experience.

I am not sure if I would say algorithmic music discovery have failed but yes, I would pick curation over algorithms any day. It just gives me more context.
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