Live data from Hacker News

Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

jakelevine.me

51–60 of 66 posts

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#52
I find it curious that the idea being touted is essentially the same as the the way iGoogle works. And of course iGoogle is being shut down.

So why is one on the rise and the other falling? Is this yet another example of the apps-win-over-the-web trend? Is the problem with iGoogle that it was trapped in the browser? Is it that iGoogle was one company's little piece of the web versus an idea that is being pushed as the front-and-center UI for an OS?

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#53
This is why Google Now is so awesome. It's a whole suite of basic apps that most people use, pushed to you only when they're relevant. It's the most impressive software on my phone by far (and I have 200+ apps).

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#54
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

taude thinks similarly to how I do. Live Tiles feel like a part of the ecosystem and there's not a widget available for every app I wish there was on Android. Then you have to factor in that there's just not that much room on the Android home screen, and widgets come in a variety of odd shapes and sizes. Live Tiles are consistent, with only three square (rectangular) sizes to pick from. The fluid scrolling through th…

The non-discrete page-flipping (so you can scroll one column at a time, instead of a whole screen) is nice. I don't know any Android launcher that can do that.

The new home screen on the HTC One?

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#56

I know this is completely off topic, but is there any reason a website should have a rapidly changing gif animation as their tab icon? I tend to open a ton of tabs and leave them open ( particularly if they're interesting and I want to re-read it or refer to it in a blog post), but the constant oscillation of that tab icon is so distracting that I feel compelled to close that tab as soon as possible since it's going…

Counterpoint: I love it.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#58
post #13

Isn't the value from the number of installs of a app or the number of times someone paid for the app? Unless they started using notifications to send me ads....which with 100% certainty cause me to uninstall the app (if such a practice is even allowed).

Sadly, push message spam is legal on iOS too. Of course you can disable notifications per-app or not allow the app to send them in the first place. But uninstalling the app is easier and The Right Thing :)

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#59

Never heard about Moves but it seems to record everything, send it to their server, analyze it there, then send you that notification. So, they know it's being used.

Yes you are correct. Reading the built-in help of the Moves app show the data collection end up on their server... So they clearly know which user is still running the app. If users were to disable pushes and no more daily data collection was happening then Moves will know they lost one user, but stating they don't know as the article show is a wrong conclusion.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#60
post #23

Isn't this what analytic packages are for? The app receiving the push message on your phone could anonymously provide analytics back to the server and with that knowledge alone, they know you are using it. Also additional analytics can be provided to see if you actually open the app.

On iOS unless the receiving app is either an official background app (aka GPS/VOIP/Music) or if the app is in the foreground then you are out of luck the app will not know a push was received. The only time the app knows a push was received is when the user act on the notification or if the push did contain a badge then the app can access the badge value... Otherwise nope!

Basically the summary for iOS is really the push is received by the notification center -own by Apple, and your app has no access to it when it run. Technically too if you go in the iOS settings and decide to remove the app from the Notification Center screen, then the pushes start to be 'lost'.

The concept of push is good and iOS now are better than in the past but they are far from being perfect and the iOS settings screen is a mess/confusion when you start playing with it.

Post reply on HN