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Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by kawsper »

cmaxwe wrote: post #48
cmaxwe wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the same switch. I had a Linode 512 and switched to a 2x512 Dropplet setup and put my Database on one 512 and my Rails app server on the other. My stuff runs as quickly if not quicker and I spend $10/mo less. In addition to this I also have a clear scaling path (e.g. If my DB grows I can up it to a 1gb. If my traffic grows I can either move the app server to a 1gb or maybe get a few more 512's and setup a load…

My one complaint with DigitalOcean is that I had a dev server setup and I was snapshoting it and destroying it when not in use then recreating it from the snapshot when I needed it. A few weeks ago they had a failure of some sort and my snapshot was lost. It took me a fairly long time to setup the dev environment so I was a bit pissed.

Have your setup for your dev environment under version control.

I do this with Linode stackscripts, and I couldn't live without it. Unfortunately DigitalOcean don't support stackscripts as of yet. And their support didn't want to tell me if they will ever support it.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

#52

Post by kawsper »

ksec wrote: post #47
cmaxwe wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the same switch. I had a Linode 512 and switched to a 2x512 Dropplet setup and put my Database on one 512 and my Rails app server on the other. My stuff runs as quickly if not quicker and I spend $10/mo less. In addition to this I also have a clear scaling path (e.g. If my DB grows I can up it to a 1gb. If my traffic grows I can either move the app server to a 1gb or maybe get a few more 512's and setup a load…

I am still waiting for Linode to React. At the moment i am still trying to find a host that sit somewhere in the middle between DO and Linode.

React to what? They have been upgrading their hardware as of lately.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

#53

Post by andyhmltn »

cmaxwe wrote: post #26
RoryH wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you possibly take some time to tell us how the switch from Linode went and how you feel about it now? (I'm a Linode customer)

I made the same switch. I had a Linode 512 and switched to a 2x512 Dropplet setup and put my Database on one 512 and my Rails app server on the other. My stuff runs as quickly if not quicker and I spend $10/mo less. In addition to this I also have a clear scaling path (e.g. If my DB grows I can up it to a 1gb. If my traffic grows I can either move the app server to a 1gb or maybe get a few more 512's and setup a load…

Just as a balance for this argument:

I was dubious about switching back to DigitalOcean as I was worried about how cheap they were offering packages. I bought a DigitalOcean VPS that had slightly better specs than my Linode and ran some tests. Just a few like response time on the site they were both holding, I/O and a Redis stress test and Linode seemed to come out marginally on top.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by andyhmltn »

ksec wrote: post #47
cmaxwe wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the same switch. I had a Linode 512 and switched to a 2x512 Dropplet setup and put my Database on one 512 and my Rails app server on the other. My stuff runs as quickly if not quicker and I spend $10/mo less. In addition to this I also have a clear scaling path (e.g. If my DB grows I can up it to a 1gb. If my traffic grows I can either move the app server to a 1gb or maybe get a few more 512's and setup a load…

I am still waiting for Linode to React. At the moment i am still trying to find a host that sit somewhere in the middle between DO and Linode.

They have been. All servers are now 8 core and they cranked the bandwidth allowance up by about 10x if I remember. Apparently they are meant to be increasing RAM soon but I'm not sure how reliable that information is. However, as they've done everything else it does make sense.

RAM is the only thing that I feel Linode is lacking as of late.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by Retric »

derefr wrote: post #44
Retric wrote: post #42

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You can also get 2 free servers a month from Amazon.com (1 Linux one windows). It's actually 750 hours each so could use more than one at a time if you turned them off afterword. http://aws.amazon.com/free/ Note: These free tiers are only available to new AWS customers, and are available for 12 months following your AWS sign-up date

Please don't present this as equivalent. AWS's free tier, amortized over the life of a five-year web service, isn't free, or even cheap. Now, I did make pretty good use of AWS myself for that first year... and then it ran out, and suddenly AWS was much more expensive than Linode (and more recently, DigitalOcean.) When all you want is "a thing to keep your Rails app running for its measly 10K hits a day" AWS loses han…

At 2c an hour * 365.2425 days * 24 hours a day /12 months * 4/5 = 11.70$ a month. But, if you want an always on connection for 1+ years you can get discounts dropping down to 8$ a month and if you link it to a high volume account you can get another 20% discount.

Which sounds cheap to me.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by chops »

tych0 wrote: post #14

Why does every host offer a plan that scales at the same rate in every column (CPU, RAM, Disk space, bytes/month)? I can think of almost no application which requires lots of all of these. Why isn't there a host which allows you to scale your own requirements? Is it a technical thing, or just another form of "oversell and underprovision because most people won't use their plan"?

http://steadfast.net offers customizable resources (CPU dedication, CPU cores, Memory, Storage, Network interfaces)

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by derefr »

Retric wrote: post #55
derefr wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't present this as equivalent. AWS's free tier, amortized over the life of a five-year web service, isn't free, or even cheap. Now, I did make pretty good use of AWS myself for that first year... and then it ran out, and suddenly AWS was much more expensive than Linode (and more recently, DigitalOcean.) When all you want is "a thing to keep your Rails app running for its measly 10K hits a day" AWS loses han…

At 2c an hour * 365.2425 days * 24 hours a day /12 months * 4/5 = 11.70$ a month. But, if you want an always on connection for 1+ years you can get discounts dropping down to 8$ a month and if you link it to a high volume account you can get another 20% discount. Which sounds cheap to me.

Where does the first 20% discount come from? (And I would completely disregard the second one; if you know someone who has a high volume account, you can probably get some spare slices just with a polite word.)

More importantly, though: you're assuming Micro instances. Micro instances are tolerable, but not really comparable to anything offered to paying customers at even the most downmarket VPS. The moment you want to burst the CPU of a Micro for any extended period (say, starting up Unicorn workers), your instance will become a chugging morass.

When I was on AWS, I had to go in and reboot my instance every other time I deployed an update to it, because the update process ran just long enough to prompt a 99%-CPU-throttle. At that point my server was basically wedged, since new HTTP requests were still trickling into the old app servers and queuing up (with the throttling, it now was too slow to handle them before more arrived), leaving the CPU unable to "relax" enough to get out of the throttled state even after the deploy was over.

> if you want an always on connection for 1+ years you can get discounts

With a down payment. You have to calculate the NPV of the cashflow, not just the aggregate sum; $10/mo is a lot easier to manage than $100 + $8/mo.

But disregaring that: even with a three-year term--costing $257 up-front, and committing you to payments in a similar way to a cell-phone contract--it looks like an Small will still cost $15.80/mo. Why put yourself in such a bind just for a not-that-good slice? (Network throughput is one of the few acceptable answers to that.)

This does all assume that your app that will live comfortably on any consumer workstation machine for the foreseeable future (its growth has already plateaued, in other words.) If there's any possibility of hockey-stick growth in your app's future, AWS becomes a lot more attractive.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by Goranek »

MDCore wrote: post #19

I'm now confused about what "Cloud Hosting" is. I thought it was a "virtual" dedicated server. All that ubiquity provides is a control panel: > Our managed cloud servers come with cPanel/WHM access. No root access is provided. How is this different from regular hosting you can get elsewhere far cheaper? Is it just the promises of RAM and SSD?

today everybody is on "cloud", it sounds cool not to be there.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

#59

Post by xur17 »

cheza wrote: post #50
RoryH wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you possibly take some time to tell us how the switch from Linode went and how you feel about it now? (I'm a Linode customer)

I was an extremely satisfied Linode customer for several years. A few months ago I migrated to Digital Ocean to save money and for the SSD performance. I'm happy that I made the move. I get better performance for less money. Also, I have spun up and down a lot of different servers for testing purposes. It's fantastic to pay by the hour for servers so that testing a beefy server for a day or two costs very little.

I've been pretty happy with DigitalOcean so far, but I am kind of sad that you have to upgrade to the $20 plan to get more than one core.

Re: 1GB Ram & SSD Cloud Hosting for $6

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Post by Retric »

derefr wrote: post #57
Retric wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 2c an hour * 365.2425 days * 24 hours a day /12 months * 4/5 = 11.70$ a month. But, if you want an always on connection for 1+ years you can get discounts dropping down to 8$ a month and if you link it to a high volume account you can get another 20% discount. Which sounds cheap to me.

Where does the first 20% discount come from? (And I would completely disregard the second one; if you know someone who has a high volume account , you can probably get some spare slices just with a polite word.) More importantly, though: you're assuming Micro instances. Micro instances are tolerable , but not really comparable to anything offered to paying customers at even the most downmarket VPS. The moment you wan…

You said "amortized over the life of a five-year web service" that's 4 years of cost + 1 year free.

As to Cost it's $100 for 3 years at .5cents an hour or 63$ for 1 year at .5cents an hour. I used the 63$ for 4 years vs 3 for 100 plus one at 63. If you really care about the time value of money your first year is free so it's better than than paying up front for that first year any way you do the numbers.

PS: I don't actually use AWS I was just defending them from the old 'there vary expensive' which I found to generally be false. Most of the time your time is worth far more than hosting costs especially when dealing with such small servers.

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