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Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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From the WSJ article: Don Dodge, a startup investor and well-known “developer advocate” for Google, said today’s startups are more focused than ever on revenue—as evidenced by the large revenue-growth charts most of them showed off during the presentations to investors. In prior years, founders focused more on the number of people using their service, he said. Refreshingly, he said, there are no longer social-network…

I think there's some truth in both perspectives, yours and dmor's. There is also a third perspective; use of the term "boring" and saying social has "run its course" was intended as a compliment to the current W13 batch, although being dismissive of previous "social" startups.

Unfortunately, using the term "boring" even in jest as a compliment is still a bit too close to calling someone's baby ugly.

(I'm certainly guilty of using poorly chosen words at times, and so is everyone else.)

Another issue, is some potential investors most likely want to appear disinterested even when they really want to invest, since it is to their advantage in negotiations. It seems part of the intent behind the "Handshake Deal Protocol" was to put an end to this kind of posturing and dancing. Playing hard to get might be profitable in some sense, but it wastes an enormous amount of time and effort.

The last issue is "interesting" and "fascinating" are choices. You decide to be interested of fascinated by a subject. Other than surprise, it often takes effort and investment to be interested or fascinated. Others may decide differently. I've worked on a ton of fascinating and challenging things that when explained to others could literally bore them to death. Even if the bored people count on the boring thing every single day, the decision to be interested or fascinated by it is their choice to make.

When people find a difference in their interests, the usual result is along the lines of resentment, intimidation, or elitism. A better approach is to acknowledge the difference of opinion on "interesting" and try to find some common ground of mutual interest.

The whole W13 batch is interesting to me. Even if I don't fully grasp the problem they're trying to solve or don't agree that their approach, I always enjoy learning about someone fascinated enough to try building a company around a problem that they consider interesting. If I just don't get it, then there's most likely an important, unknown something I can learn from them. If I do get it, then I my understanding is probably way behind theirs, and I still have something to learn from them.

If you're uninvolved with the push and pull between startups and potential investors and are unaffected by startup outcomes or business competition, then it's easy to ignore the nonsense and enjoy learning about all the new companies on demo days. It's OK to be a spectator and cheer the accomplishments of others.

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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My guess is that about 10-12m from now we'll see the media talking about one of these companies that "you've never heard of" that is "crushing it" on bookings/revenue. People tend to forget that the media has little to no memory and is usually staffed by people in their 20s who have little idea of what they are talking about. Obviously not always the case, but using the media (or other bloggers) as your measure of su…

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Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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This is a great analysis. I would also challenge any of the jaded reporters to dig through their publication's coverage of the Demo Day from Airbnb's class and see how many correctly called it as a "10X" startup. It seemed insane at the time, but brilliant in retrospect.

Agreed. I remember being introduced to Chesky back in 2009 and thinking "yeah, right! there is no way that will work".

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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I call bullshit on the claim that there were no tech-oriented companies. One of them is a platform for automating flying drones. Another is a platform for EE circuit design. These are both pretty nerdgasmic if you ask me. edit: oh and how could I forget Thalmic.

Well they did not convince the "tech press" that they were the next Google.

You don't need to be "the next Google" to be an exciting tech company, though. Even AirBnB are not "the next Google" but they're still hugely successful.

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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My guess is that about 10-12m from now we'll see the media talking about one of these companies that "you've never heard of" that is "crushing it" on bookings/revenue. People tend to forget that the media has little to no memory and is usually staffed by people in their 20s who have little idea of what they are talking about. Obviously not always the case, but using the media (or other bloggers) as your measure of su…

Agreed. It's hard for a recent college grad to get really excited about "human capital management software". In contrast, it's very easy to understand the use case for something that lets you edit videos on your iPhone. Thus, young people have a difficult time inventing Workday while they eagerly can imagine the use cases and are stimulated by xyz-instagram-of-video.

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the average group going into YC has shifted in their goals. I believe there's a general trend towards focusing more on small-risk small-reward startups, I assume this trend is trickling into SV as well.

It's a common misconception that "big hits" can't have early revenue. I'm not sure why.

The reason is, Google.

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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Not sure what the hoopla is about as there are a ton of great technology companies in this batch. Not sure how wearable computers and drones don't count as bleeding edge tech.

It takes about a year or two for these things to play out and for the trends YC is currently observing to become the next sexy thing for startups to mass replicate. The "next big thing" is always boring until it isn't :)

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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From the WSJ article: Don Dodge, a startup investor and well-known “developer advocate” for Google, said today’s startups are more focused than ever on revenue—as evidenced by the large revenue-growth charts most of them showed off during the presentations to investors. In prior years, founders focused more on the number of people using their service, he said. Refreshingly, he said, there are no longer social-network…

It's not meant to be negative. At CircuitLab (Don Dodge's specific example for "solving boring problems that make money"), we're interpreting "boring problems" as a concise way of saying "problems that people have 9am-5pm (at work) and want to solve faster so they can leave at 5pm". That's not a bad place to be. Or perhaps they are problems that are exciting to our users but boring to Don Dodge. :)

WSJ direct link: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/03/26/at-smaller-y-combinat...

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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Here's the opening sentence from Anthony Ha's top list for TC. How much more positive can you get? Y Combinator was tougher to get into than ever this season, and the quality showed on stage.

Pando was the worst offender. Never founded, never been early employee, never had it all on the line.....but credible critic?

Re: YC Demo Day, the Morning After

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they did not convince the "tech press" that they were the next Google.

You don't need to be "the next Google" to be an exciting tech company, though. Even AirBnB are not "the next Google" but they're still hugely successful.

That's exactly his point though: AirBNB is not really a high tech company. Other than scaling issues, it's a relatively simple CRUD web-app, their competitive advantage is in their business/social/whatever skills.
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