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When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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If you think of TEDx as simply a wider funnel for TED.com content, I think it has been a great success.

I'm surprised to see the HN community so vociferously opposed to TEDx. We are all basically reading a news website that operates with a similar principle (wide funnel, with a method to route the best content to the top for wider distribution).

Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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TEDx talks have lacked credibility from the beginning as far as I'm concerned, but what I find disappointing is that the main TED talks are increasingly just motivational nonsense. There are some very engaging speakers, but the actual ideas and content are often questionable. I find some of the perspectives on and from "developing countries" particularly patronizing and poorly contextualized. But most people I know f…

Like many other successful venues it can too be co-opted. At times when watching videos there I just left because I knew it was agenda speaking. There are many great videos that currently overshadow the not so great.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to come off the wrong way, but did you even read the article? Most of it was about past transgressions and what they've done to tighten the brand. Maybe you're been away too long. I also somewhat reject your characterization of their mission, because their mission first and foremost is about the spread of ideas. TEDx has irrefutably made TED more popular and mainstream and thus more effective as a vehicl…

> "I don't mean to come off the wrong way, but did you even read the article?" IMO, there is no way to say the above and have it come off the right way. It falls into the same bucket as "with all due respect..." > "Most of it was about past transgressions and what they've done to tighten the brand." Yes, and my contention is that it will never be enough . This is not a unique problem - large, spread out organizations…

It is also how they rose to fame in the first place - they didn't predate Vimeo or YouTube...

The first TED talk was in 1984. That predates Vimeo, YouTube, and most of the components of the technology stack that are a pre-requisite for Vimeo and YouTube to make sense.

Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to come off the wrong way, but did you even read the article? Most of it was about past transgressions and what they've done to tighten the brand. Maybe you're been away too long. I also somewhat reject your characterization of their mission, because their mission first and foremost is about the spread of ideas. TEDx has irrefutably made TED more popular and mainstream and thus more effective as a vehicl…

Those might be the 228 best ones - they're still often horrible presentations. TED presentations used to be a big deal, and they were extremely well rehearsed. That's not the case any more. While the material covered is occasionally great, the pain of listening to a bad speakers makes it not worth my time. Add to that the fact that _nothing_ is a must watch when it covers hundreds of hours, and the days of "It's a TE…

>"It's a TED talk, it'll be worth watching" are gone

I think this is primarily the issue. It's in part due to just the shear over saturation of the talks these days. It's tough for everything to be "great."

Second, the brand has been diluted to the point that it's tough to know whether or not a talk is worth investing the time. There are videos on how to tie your shoe.. I mean, come on.

There's also a video on how to dry your hands with one paper towel (it doesn't work). Sure, I mean, I guess it's kind of interesting (If it catches you in the right mood, perhaps), but, I mean, "shake your hands a bit before you grab the towel" sounds a little more like something the would pop up in /r/lifeprotips.

Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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I'm generally of the opinion that TEDx needs to end entirely. TED is a single organizer, not a movement or a cause - its primary contribution to the world is that of exacting, high-quality curation in a world where everyone has a soapbox. TED's usefulness to people is the trust in the brand and the trust in their curation quality - if this is lost TED's main mission has failed. In my opinion, TED has already lost thi…

I don't mean to come off the wrong way, but did you even read the article? Most of it was about past transgressions and what they've done to tighten the brand. Maybe you're been away too long. I also somewhat reject your characterization of their mission, because their mission first and foremost is about the spread of ideas. TEDx has irrefutably made TED more popular and mainstream and thus more effective as a vehicl…

It's a lot easier to destroy a brand than to save it, no matter how much the TED organizers think they "turned around opinion".

Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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If you think of TEDx as simply a wider funnel for TED.com content, I think it has been a great success. I'm surprised to see the HN community so vociferously opposed to TEDx. We are all basically reading a news website that operates with a similar principle (wide funnel, with a method to route the best content to the top for wider distribution).

yea but we are not paying $6000 reading things on HackerNews. If you are paying that much money to attend / support a talk, it better be delivering great quality.

Re: When TED Lost Control of Its Crowd

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to come off the wrong way, but did you even read the article? Most of it was about past transgressions and what they've done to tighten the brand. Maybe you're been away too long. I also somewhat reject your characterization of their mission, because their mission first and foremost is about the spread of ideas. TEDx has irrefutably made TED more popular and mainstream and thus more effective as a vehicl…

I don't think we need another vehicle for the "spread of ideas". We have the internet for that. Everyone and their dogs have a blog on which they can detail the minutiae of their crackpottery. The reason I used to like TED is that they curated new and solid ideas that may have buried in the internet noise. In other words, they filtered out the noise and gave me the signal. What now? Well, browsing a random TEDx video…

lol, but I totally agree with you!
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