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Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by mehrdad »

PeterisP wrote: post #28
mehrdad wrote: post #9

Personally I am offended by Google glass! and I refuse to talk to anyone filming and recording my voice me on Google glass. It's offensive on many levels. Google should work on a social etiquette for their product. Showing you a small screen on your end is your business, pointing a camera toward me, recording me and my voice is my business, and it can only be done with my permission, and it is "no". The only scenario…

If you value privacy, you don't want me looking at your private stuff. Don't show it to me or ask me to leave. But if you allow me to look at you, then I can remember what I see. I am allowed to remember everything that I see and hear, every single last detail, forever, and without requesting permission from anyone. If I have trouble remembering, I may write it down or draw pictures of what I saw and heard, and also…

And tell me again why customer service agent informs me that my voice is being recorded? I don't thing he/she just wants to be polite.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by InclinedPlane »

joeld42 wrote: post #38

The closest analogy I see is with the segway. Something that could be useful and even world-changing but overhyped and dumped on a market without justifying it's existence. Apple could have released the iPad first but they waited to teach the market what it was with the iPhone first. Thus each step (iPhone, tablet) was a new form of a familiar thing rather than a new thing altogether. If I were in Google's shoes, I w…

The segway is not world changing. Full stop.

It could never have been cheaper than a bicycle or a scooter yet it was less capable than either.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by andrewescott »

VengefulCynic wrote: post #10

To my mind, the Google Glass is far more like the Microsoft Tablet, the Tesla Roadster and the Palm Treo: the initial realization of a concept that, before now, didn't exist in the world at all. It seems incorrect to compare it to the iPhone and the iPad because both of those were taking technology that had existed in the tech community for years and reimagining them in a way that appealed to the general public. As a…

Perhaps Glass should be compared with the Sony Walkman (which may be a bit before the time of some of those on HN). When Sony introduced the Walkman, they also invented portable headphones. Because no-one wore headphones around in public before, there was a huge stigma relating to doing so. In particular, in Japan, ear-wear was associated with deafness and hence old people. So, Sony embarked on a mass media campaign to change the perception of wearing headphones, by showing attractive models wearing them, roller-skating with them, etc. They made them cool for youth to wear, rather than dorky.

If Google can also change the idea of electronic eye-wear from Borg-like to babe-magnet, then they may be onto a winner.

- for both male and female babes.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by e6b68052fff9c26 »

PeterisP wrote: post #28
mehrdad wrote: post #9

Personally I am offended by Google glass! and I refuse to talk to anyone filming and recording my voice me on Google glass. It's offensive on many levels. Google should work on a social etiquette for their product. Showing you a small screen on your end is your business, pointing a camera toward me, recording me and my voice is my business, and it can only be done with my permission, and it is "no". The only scenario…

If you value privacy, you don't want me looking at your private stuff. Don't show it to me or ask me to leave. But if you allow me to look at you, then I can remember what I see. I am allowed to remember everything that I see and hear, every single last detail, forever, and without requesting permission from anyone. If I have trouble remembering, I may write it down or draw pictures of what I saw and heard, and also…

The problem isn't that you're remembering it. The problem is that Google is remembering it. Google will make a database of every frame recorded by every Glass device, indexed by the people in it. Now, everything I do in the presence of a Glass user is cataloged for Google to pull up and use in advertising.

It's also available for law enforcement to subpoena.

I'd be more comfortable if it was all stored locally, and the Glass devices were running 100% free and open source software that could be examined to confirm that Google never gets a copy of any of the video or images.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by untog »

blhack wrote: post #41
untog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concept isn't just the technology. This is the first time such technology has ever been considered for a consumer application.

No, it isn't, it's just the first time that you're hearing about it because it's the first time that the tech has been pointed at your particular subset of consumer.

Alright, what other consumer products like Google Glass have been released?

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by heironimus »

pc86 wrote: post #23
mehrdad wrote: post #9

Personally I am offended by Google glass! and I refuse to talk to anyone filming and recording my voice me on Google glass. It's offensive on many levels. Google should work on a social etiquette for their product. Showing you a small screen on your end is your business, pointing a camera toward me, recording me and my voice is my business, and it can only be done with my permission, and it is "no". The only scenario…

I don't think that's how recording laws work. Regardless, my impression from the latest Verge piece on Glass is that there is an external light when recording.

And I'm sure it will be impossible to paint over it. ;-)

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

DanBC wrote: post #22
VengefulCynic wrote: post #10

To my mind, the Google Glass is far more like the Microsoft Tablet, the Tesla Roadster and the Palm Treo: the initial realization of a concept that, before now, didn't exist in the world at all. It seems incorrect to compare it to the iPhone and the iPad because both of those were taking technology that had existed in the tech community for years and reimagining them in a way that appealed to the general public. As a…

> Google Glass is [...] the initial realization of a concept that, before now, didn't exist in the world at all. I don't understand. Heads up displays have existed in various forms for years. We've had versions that cover one eye, or that use lasers onto the retina.

It's the first time it's being jacked into something like Google. The iPod wasn't as revolutionary as iPod + iTunes. The union of the heads up display with Google's software is similar to how the Apple II, while not the first microcomputer, is the first one that mattered.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by warfangle »

morsch wrote: post #5

It only solves one side of man machine interaction: the machine-to-man part. For many interactions, its solution for man-to-machine is voice, which is anything but unobtrusive in public.

Combined with the Myo, if the Myo performs as advertised... would be fantastic.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by guelo »

manaskarekar wrote: post #7
morsch wrote: post #5

It only solves one side of man machine interaction: the machine-to-man part. For many interactions, its solution for man-to-machine is voice, which is anything but unobtrusive in public.

Wonder what their status on 'eye motion controlled interfaces' (sic) related patents is.

It seems like last year's demos emphasized the eye gestures while this year they're gone. It must have not worked out somehow.

Re: The Glass Bicycle

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Post by warfangle »

mehrdad wrote: post #51
PeterisP wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you value privacy, you don't want me looking at your private stuff. Don't show it to me or ask me to leave. But if you allow me to look at you, then I can remember what I see. I am allowed to remember everything that I see and hear, every single last detail, forever, and without requesting permission from anyone. If I have trouble remembering, I may write it down or draw pictures of what I saw and heard, and also…

And tell me again why customer service agent informs me that my voice is being recorded? I don't thing he/she just wants to be polite.

Because they're required to by law, as telephone conversations are not considered public.

Walking down the street, on the other hand--

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