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Re: The official Basecamp iPhone app

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"Eventually we came to the conclusion that we should stick with what we’re good at: web apps. We know the technologies well, we have a great development environment and workflow, we can control the release cycle, and everyone at 37signals can do the work. It’s what we already do, just on a smaller screen. We all loved our smaller screens so we were eager to dive in. Plus, since WebKit-based browsers were making their…

So glad you posted this, I bookmarked that post exactly 106 weeks ago, and remember it well. especially this part > So we stopped and thought about it for a bit. Do we want to have to hire an iOS developer and an Android developer? That’s a lot of specialization, and we’re usually anti-specialization when it comes to development. I don't mind it when people change their minds about something, its a sign of intelligen…

This. If I could replace my original post with yours, I would. This is exactly what I was trying to say.

Re: The official Basecamp iPhone app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this bit about ditching is tongue-in-cheek. I don't actually expect them to do so, although I do feel that eventually this will happen and we'll all be back here discussing why it's different because of X . I'm also confused why the overwhelming majority of HN readers manage to claim that a HTML5/PhoneGap app is inferior to a native one, but then somehow bob and weave when 37signals does the same thing. Confus…

> I'm also confused why the overwhelming majority of HN readers manage to claim that a HTML5/PhoneGap app is inferior to a native one, but then somehow bob and weave when 37signals does the same thing. Confusing! I agree with you there; it is confusing.

This makes me think you may have interpreted my criticism as either PhoneGap or Objective-C bias. For the record, I believe in the right tool for the job, so it does not at all bother me that 37signals went HTML5/PhoneGap/etc.

What bothers me is the slight of hand with the principals they are selling. In some broad respects, 37signals is the Oprah of the web biz - I know that sounds nuts, but I do believe that they sell a philosophy of betterment of the small business. There is a social responsibility, in my opinion, to uphold the tenets or at least explain why they are now different.

Re: The official Basecamp iPhone app

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm also confused why the overwhelming majority of HN readers manage to claim that a HTML5/PhoneGap app is inferior to a native one, but then somehow bob and weave when 37signals does the same thing. Confusing! I agree with you there; it is confusing.

This makes me think you may have interpreted my criticism as either PhoneGap or Objective-C bias. For the record, I believe in the right tool for the job , so it does not at all bother me that 37signals went HTML5/PhoneGap/etc. What bothers me is the slight of hand with the principals they are selling. In some broad respects, 37signals is the Oprah of the web biz - I know that sounds nuts, but I do believe that they…

I'll agree that they should have at least acknowledged their previous stance.

Re: The official Basecamp iPhone app

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Simple, dumb questions: So what is the point of it being hybrid, actually? Speed of development? Multiple platforms?

Native views and web views are good at different things. Native is good for high fidelity interaction, animations, responding to gestures. However the native APIs are bad for designing "documents" -- that is, layouts where elements flow within a container and push each other around. That means that things that are extremely easy on the web can be painstaking in native UI without much upside. Web views have limited in…

Agree. Another benefit is that the capability of browsers is increasing daily e.g. flexbox layout
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