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Re: The 30th Anniversary Of MIDI: A Protocol Three Decades On

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Post by tibbon » Wed, Jan 23, 2013, 4:47 PM UTC

jamesbritt wrote: post #47

tibbon wrote: post #39

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Is Live removing OSC? That's really unfortunate. I use it with my Monome right now for Live stuff.

Removing? To my knowledge it was never there. Are you sure Monome is not sending MIDI, or going through some intermediary app (MAX for Live or something similar) or an add-on?

Ah yea, I'm running it all through Max4Live.

Re: The 30th Anniversary Of MIDI: A Protocol Three Decades On

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Post by dbattaglia » Sat, Jan 26, 2013, 11:39 PM UTC

jamesbritt wrote: post #37

dbattaglia wrote: post #7

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I always wonder if we'll ever see OSC catch on in the way MIDI has by the big name manufacturers (Roland, Korg, etc). You see it in niche interfaces like the Lemur but not much else. Even the Monome devices don't work with OSC natively, they send serial data over USB, you need software to convert it.

I'm surprised to not see OSC being included in even the upcoming version of Ableton Live. This is one reason I prefer Renoise (though it's a somewhat apples to oranges match-up). It has built-in OSC support, and adding custom OSC message handlers via Lua scripting is relatively trivial.

Yeah it's kind of a bummer but Max4Live really helps mitigate things. Especially as a coder, its pretty cool to just pop up a Max js object and work with the Max4Live API directly in code. I'm a long time Reaktor and Max user, but these days I find the mouse-based box-and-wire interface painful when you want to make something somewhat complicated. I believe Resoise has Lua scripting now no? That seems pretty cool, gotta take a look even though I always find trackers to be somewhat tough to get used to.

Re: The 30th Anniversary Of MIDI: A Protocol Three Decades On

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Post by dbattaglia » Sat, Jan 26, 2013, 11:41 PM UTC

tibbon wrote: post #39

jamesbritt wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised to not see OSC being included in even the upcoming version of Ableton Live. This is one reason I prefer Renoise (though it's a somewhat apples to oranges match-up). It has built-in OSC support, and adding custom OSC message handlers via Lua scripting is relatively trivial.

Is Live removing OSC? That's really unfortunate. I use it with my Monome right now for Live stuff.

What kind of Live-Monome apps are you using? Just curious, I have a 64 and 256 myself (I actually was the guy who ported Monome Serial from OSX to Windows, so I'm pretty biased towards Monome devices :) )

Re: The 30th Anniversary Of MIDI: A Protocol Three Decades On

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Post by tibbon » Mon, Jan 28, 2013, 4:10 PM UTC

dbattaglia wrote: post #53

tibbon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Live removing OSC? That's really unfortunate. I use it with my Monome right now for Live stuff.

What kind of Live-Monome apps are you using? Just curious, I have a 64 and 256 myself (I actually was the guy who ported Monome Serial from OSX to Windows, so I'm pretty biased towards Monome devices :) )

Mostly using Stretta's ones. Need to use them more.

I'm working this week to get my modular talking to Live in a useful way using the Monome and an Expert Sleepers ES-3 (8 DC coupled outputs that work as trigger, gate or CV out)