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Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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I had an extremely bad experience with Developer Auction. Ultimately using the site got me fired from my job and the team at Developer Auction was extremely non-responsive/uncaring about it all. Matt Miszewski in particular was extremely callous.

Holy shit. Fired for interviewing elsewhere?

You can usually negotiate a severance when that happens, since they haven't had time to draw up documentation. Speak to a lawyer.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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I had an extremely bad experience with Developer Auction. Ultimately using the site got me fired from my job and the team at Developer Auction was extremely non-responsive/uncaring about it all. Matt Miszewski in particular was extremely callous.

I'm also interested to hear how this happened.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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I had an extremely bad experience with Developer Auction. Ultimately using the site got me fired from my job and the team at Developer Auction was extremely non-responsive/uncaring about it all. Matt Miszewski in particular was extremely callous.

would you mind elaborating? How did using a site like this get you fired? And what did you really expect them to do?

It's pretty common for someone to be fired when discovered interviewing elsewhere. Usually, though, they draw up one of those horrible "performance improvement plans" and you'll be able to move on before it closes.

Worst is when you're trying for internal transfer and get PIP'd because of it. Then you have to get a job elsewhere, because the PIP fucks up your internal mobility.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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"Start working and receive 20% cash back on our fee, typically $3,000 to $5,000+" What does that mean? Somewhere else it says that it is free to developers. Is the hired developer receiving a portion of the fee you charge the employer?

Correct, engineers get a portion of the fee that we charge employers.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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The better model would be those "dev bootcamps" type that popping up locally almost throughout the major USA cities and Toronto. Their business model is excellent: 1) Pay us $4k-$6k (let's say average $5k) 2) We'll train you for 4weeks or more 3) We'll find you jobs guaranteed with min salary $60k-$80k (whatever) or money back. [Hidden] 4) Companies pay these guys "recruiting fee" between 10-20% Some of the bootcamps…

Can you link me to any of these? Would like to read more about them.

http://catalystclass.com/

I'm starting at Catalyst in two days. It's like Dev Bootcamp, but more hours, more weeks and focused more on JavaScript. Actually, I found them right here on HN! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4859844

The prep work for the course has been intense-- lots of jQuery, and some online classes on Coffeescript, Node.js and Backbone.js. And it's a fantastic feeling to be in! Getting accepted is honestly one of the happiest moments I've had since moving to SF last summer. It's also exactly the environment for reaching top goal from our HN 2013 goals thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4966522

If anyone wants to do blog interviews with me throughout the process, drop me a line.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link me to any of these? Would like to read more about them.

HN had this discussion a week ago. http://devbootcamp.com/ http://www.appacademy.io/ http://www.gschool.it/ http://www.starterleague.com/

The Disruption Institute (http://www.disruptioninstitute.com ) just launched in Kansas City, focused on mobile development.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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Why are recruiter fees so ridiculously high? I've been on both sides of the equation. I've used recruiters to try and find people and have used recruiters to try and find work. On the receiving end it is always shocking to see someone ask you for a $25K fee to hire a $100K employee. I'd rather give the employee more money. At best a recruiter should be perfectly happy with a 5% finder's fee. Why are they asking to ge…

Hires and recruitment fees are typically made with the assumption that the employee will be employed for more than 12 months, and that higher fees to the recruiter will result in a more valuable employee. Not saying its true or untrue, but you can't just say something like "Thats 3 months worth of earnings!" when value is the thing that matters, not price.

"when the value is the thing that matters, not price"

Are you are recruiter? Because, you know, as an entrepreneur, yes, value is always important, but price is always, always, always important. Fairness too.

25% is ridiculous. The recruiter is NOT generating the employee's value, the employee is. And don't go for the "you would not have found them if it were not for the recruiter". In my experience there are very few recruiters that actually add value to the process. Most are horrible resume farms that algorithmically (or not) match resumes with job requirements and barrage the employer with a bunch of candidates to see if something sticks. In other words, the quest for easy money rather than anything else. The more people and companies you shovel through the system the greater your probabilities of making money.

How many of us have received the formulaic email from some data-entry worker in India saying something like: "I came across your resume and it looks like a perfect fit for one of our clients. Please submit resume, availability, desired salary and ability to relocate." Right.

There are a few (definitely count them with one hand) companies that might truly do a good job of getting to know both candidate and employer, but these days, that is far, very far, from the norm.

I offered that 5% might be a good number. What I actually think is that the whole model is completely broken. I have some ideas on how to fix it, but that's not for this thread.

Re: Developer Auction out of beta; accepting developers from all backgrounds in US

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I've been in their system since they first broke in September. I've received 4 offers. 2 were very early stage compaines with The $110k was at a company I'd consider working for if I didn't have to work from their NYC office. (I'm in SF now.)

>I've also received a $110k offer from a well-known company and $165k from another early stage. It seems the 165k one wasn't. Which is understandable. If they were a great opportunity for you, they wouldn't have to reach that deep into their pockets.

Haven't talked to the company yet. I'm skeptical, but always willing to hear out a new opportunity.
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