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Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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Apollo is a friend of mine - and he's without a doubt one of the most talented, intelligent performers working today. He has a frighteningly sharp understanding of misdirection, and how to control where you are looking and when. While a magician of sorts, Apollo's talent is unique from magic in that the secret is just as entertaining as the effect. Our company [ http://theory11.com ] is a collective of artists in the…

I have a friend who used to be very into sleight-of-hand. He described some of his time at a magic camp once, apparently it was a mark of superiority if you managed to putpocket another magician, so they would spend some effort on doing it to each other. I think it's a great mental image -- some poor magician emptying aces out of his pockets in the evening, "damn it, damn it."

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Apollo is a friend of mine - and he's without a doubt one of the most talented, intelligent performers working today. He has a frighteningly sharp understanding of misdirection, and how to control where you are looking and when. While a magician of sorts, Apollo's talent is unique from magic in that the secret is just as entertaining as the effect. Our company [ http://theory11.com ] is a collective of artists in the…

Fun to see theory11 on Hacker News. Great company, I'm a fan. I wonder how many HN users are magicians. I've always felt a strong connection between hacking and magic - both involve trying to "hack" a problem in a way that ordinary minds will never think of. In fact, I credit magic with teaching me the roots of skepticism and rationality - once you know how to explain seemingly unexplainable things, you realize that…

Magic tricks are hacking! You are hacking someone's mind, particularly their assumptions and attention. The exploits to human psychology and attention are just as sure as the exploits to crack or unlock a smartphone and many other software exploits. The difference is that software can be patched but the evolved behaviors that are the root of the exploits used by magicians are very hard to "patch". For example, if I say the word "ball", if you have understood this word then you have no choice but to have a certain mental state that is predictable to a magician. You do not have conscious access to the low level machinery for understanding speech and if there is some magic trick involving, say, implanting an idea in your mind using words, then you often CAN NOT avoid being fooled. Moreover, a good magician will prevent you from stopping to think about what he is doing by merely talking and distracting/leading your attention to the next ruse he wishes to perpetrate. Unless you know the tricks or have exceptional mental control, e.g., from years of meditation practice, you will quickly find yourself overwhelmed and check-mated by a good magician.

What's amazing about magic tricks is how strong the effects can be. For some tricks, if you didn't know that it was a trick, there is simply no other explanation than that it is magic. A good magician doing closeup magic can follow your gaze and know what you're looking at in order to adjust his strategy in real time. The evidence that might clue you in to the trick is fleeting and if you miss it, due to distraction and showmanship, then the magician has caught you and has succeeded in pickpocketing you, making you think an object has disappeared or that he has read your mind.

EDIT: And your point about magic and skepticism is particularly apt. A lot of supernatural belief is based on unexplained things in people's everyday life. These are kind of like "natural" magic tricks. People might encounter unexplained events in their everyday life and jump to the conclusion that it is supernatural because they don't know where to look to find the natural causes. And if the natural antecedents are forgotten or fade away then all that is left is unexplained event that seems supernatural. For example, one time I was sitting at my desk and I noticed that a Styrofoam cup on an adjacent desk just started moving. It was as if the Invisible Man decided to slide the cup about 5 inches. If I didn't investigate what was going on then I would have no choice but to conclude that it was magic because there was no visible natural cause to it. As I tentatively approached the cup, I realized that the desk it was sitting on was at a slight incline. Moreover, there was a small puddle of water on the desk from the air-conditioner above it that had been leaking. The puddle of water had slowly, due to gravity, seeped beneath the cup and eventually the cup overcame friction to slide down the thin slick film.

Now, if I had not checked for physical causes immediately, then the water may have dried up and the true cause for the seemingly supernatural event would have been lost to time. Magic helps skepticism because it makes you cognizant of the fact that things can appear to be supernatural if you are not ready at all times to check for natural explanations.

Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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Thanks, great article! Pickpockets fascinate me. A recent hobby of mine has been to steal people's straws in drinks at parties (a way to practice without being arrested when you fail :-) )- it's a fascinating thing to do: you have to observe how people behave, how they react when you talk to them, when you point at something with one finger, etc. I recommend trying it.

You should check out http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters/

It's a blog by Bob Arno, a once stage pickpocket, who now wanders around the world looking for thieves of various sorts (and then interviews them)

Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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That's an interesting point, but it's also pretty obvious that my valuables are going to be in my pockets.

Not necessarily if you're going into a pickpocket dense area like Rome

What did you do? My cash was in a hollow belt, my compact camera tied to my trousers and the pocket it was in was safety pinned closed. Everyone we met had been stolen from, we were tested 3x that we know of (all in crowds, 2 of them on trains) with nothing taken. Naples was just as ad, but with an undertone of violence, and Lima was downright frightening.

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Have you considered that quite a few notice what you did but just don't want to confront you, rather put you in "that weirdo" category and make a mental note not to associate with you anymore. I would certainly not follow you, point a finger and yell "you stole my straw, give it back" but I would certainly think you are strange and just steer away from you in the future.

Have you considered that you might be the strange one? You see somebody do something "weird", immediately categorize them, cut communication, and move on... That's a pretty small and boring world to live in. If I saw OP do his thing, I'd laugh and say "give me my straw back you weirdo", he'd explain and that would be that.

We all do that unconsciously. If you're like most people, you aren't strange.

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Apollo is a friend of mine - and he's without a doubt one of the most talented, intelligent performers working today. He has a frighteningly sharp understanding of misdirection, and how to control where you are looking and when. While a magician of sorts, Apollo's talent is unique from magic in that the secret is just as entertaining as the effect. Our company [ http://theory11.com ] is a collective of artists in the…

"Brain Games" Thanks for that. Here's a link for anyone else interested that I just found: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/brain-games/ep...

If you're craving more videos of this topic like I am, I found a bunch of TED Talks on magic, like this one:

http://www.ted.com/talks/keith_barry_does_brain_magic.html

Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered that quite a few notice what you did but just don't want to confront you, rather put you in "that weirdo" category and make a mental note not to associate with you anymore. I would certainly not follow you, point a finger and yell "you stole my straw, give it back" but I would certainly think you are strange and just steer away from you in the future.

Have you considered that you might be the strange one? You see somebody do something "weird", immediately categorize them, cut communication, and move on... That's a pretty small and boring world to live in. If I saw OP do his thing, I'd laugh and say "give me my straw back you weirdo", he'd explain and that would be that.

If I meet 10 new people at a party and I see one of them taking my straw I will just immediately categorize them and probably choose to associate with the other 9.

> If I saw OP do his thing, I'd laugh and say "give me my straw back you weirdo", he'd explain and that would be that.

I would do that but depends on the context and how he acts. If he is nervous and acting weird I would probably refuse to say anything and just go and talk with someone else. If he was already interesting and funny I might assume he is just joking. If he is already a friend and is known to do this then I wouldn't care probably.So it really depends on the context.

Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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Bruce Schneier in 2011 about pickpocketting becoming less and less a problem in the U.S.: (one the guy in TFA is mentioned in Schneier's entry too)

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/03/pickpockets_ar...

An interesting comment explain that pickpockets typically do not have their certification to hold weapons and prefer not to: when they get caught or pointed at (which happens all the time), they don't want to police to find out they have a gun. I take it it makes sense: they are there for pickpocketting, like rats. Not to enter in duels with men with balls big enough to actually pull out a gun (not that I think it's a good or bad thing, it's just a fact that there are places where people do carry guns).

Long story short: pickpockets are more likely to steal in places where they're less likely to get shot or beaten should they get caught in the act.

Re: A Pickpocket's Tale

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I have noticed that the people who tell me they have been pick pocketed are generally the people I would target if I was pickpocketing. Old wealthy couples who don't speak the local language and have lots of expensive stuff with them, young people with flash cameras and computers hung over a shoulder (not across chest or around neck). Combined with a generally touristy attitude (noisy, visiting tourist sights, obvious cameras, maps, backpacks). We also noticed in Italy, France, Chile and Peru (have been other places, but didn't encounter pickpocketing) that the majority of those targeted were US American. This was out of proportion to their numbers. We kind of exploited this and stayed near loud groups of obviously wealthy Americans so that we would be less likely to have issues, and found a few others doing the same (Australian and New Zealand travelers both times, antipodeans seem to think a similar way).
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