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OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by mrguyorama »

XorNot wrote: post #44
altruios wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, that's the corporate-washed killer app. Intimacy between people in a long distance relationship: that's the killer app.

No it's definitely folding laundry. My intimacy with my partner in a short difference marriage would improved it we could eliminate folding washing from the weekly chores.

So, uh, have you tried just not folding laundry?

I think it's funny how often "Folding Laundry" is brought up as the critical use case as if that's a labor function that needs to be done in the first place!

Some of us already live in the Utopia of not folding laundry!

I'm not advocating, but pointing out how silly it is that the supposed linchpin of the end of human labor is a completely voluntary and unnecessary task. I get why it can be a good example, because it's common and "hard" in that computery way that seems like it shouldn't be that hard, and that it's supposed to represent all the other hard problems of housework.

But we know what the household robot industry considers "solved" to look like, and I'm not that satisfied with roombas, and knowing that, is $6000 for something that could fold your laundry really that much better a proposition than just being wrinkly sometimes? Downey produces a product that you spray on a clothing item and stretch it and it stops being wrinkly. Totally unnecessary, but way cheaper than $6000.

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by 8note »

altruios wrote: post #40
donpdonp wrote: post #13

$6,500 for OpenArm v2. Incredibly smooth movement, 4kg of load per arm. Its unclear how far the level of autonomous control has come so far. The video shows mostly tele-operated operation. I have to agree with other comments here that folding laundry is the killer app.

Respectfully, that's the corporate-washed killer app. Intimacy between people in a long distance relationship: that's the killer app.

probably not quite.

intimacy over onlyfans with a guy in india pretending to be the woman is the proper killer app.

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by 8note »

mrguyorama wrote: post #51
XorNot wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's definitely folding laundry. My intimacy with my partner in a short difference marriage would improved it we could eliminate folding washing from the weekly chores.

So, uh, have you tried just not folding laundry? I think it's funny how often "Folding Laundry" is brought up as the critical use case as if that's a labor function that needs to be done in the first place! Some of us already live in the Utopia of not folding laundry! I'm not advocating, but pointing out how silly it is that the supposed linchpin of the end of human labor is a completely voluntary and unnecessary tas…

folding laundry is an exemplary case of a lot of household work which involves carefully collecting items through the house, putting them into a machine to run a cleaning cycle, then putting them away in their right location.

folding is a hard middle step in the laundry process, but the job is end to end

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

#54

Post by bluebarbet »

brookst wrote: post #37
embedding-shape wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see people taking cars for distances that would take 10-15 minutes to walk. If we're hunting to cut down on inefficiencies, there is a lot of stuff we could attack before a robot arm becomes impactful enough to care about.

I genuinely don’t understand this binary thinking. You could easily turn it around: if we’re cutting down on inefficiencies, laundry folding robots will give people more time to exercise. Or, why bother going to the gym if you don’t eat healthily? Or, why bother eating healthy if you don’t go to the gym. Not trying to give you a hard time specifically, it’s just a pattern that I feel left out of. If A and B are both…

True, but both of you are missing my main point.

>if we’re cutting down on inefficiencies, laundry folding robots will give people more time to exercise [...] going to the gym

Exercising while a machine folds one's laundry is akin to running on a treadmill instead of running in the park. The technology is the inefficiency.

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by failbuffer »

XorNot wrote: post #44
altruios wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, that's the corporate-washed killer app. Intimacy between people in a long distance relationship: that's the killer app.

No it's definitely folding laundry. My intimacy with my partner in a short difference marriage would improved it we could eliminate folding washing from the weekly chores.

Have you tried getting a folding board or folding table? Helps accelerate the process and produces neater results. I love mine!

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by sschueller »

donpdonp wrote: post #13

$6,500 for OpenArm v2. Incredibly smooth movement, 4kg of load per arm. Its unclear how far the level of autonomous control has come so far. The video shows mostly tele-operated operation. I have to agree with other comments here that folding laundry is the killer app.

I don't understand why everyone wants to build a laundry folding robot that is humanoid when we generally build purpose built machines which can do a much better and quicker job.

I want to toss dirty laundry into a hopper and have it come out clean and folded at the other end.

There is no reason to use my existing washer and dryer that are designed for human use.

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by fhn »

altruios wrote: post #40
donpdonp wrote: post #13

$6,500 for OpenArm v2. Incredibly smooth movement, 4kg of load per arm. Its unclear how far the level of autonomous control has come so far. The video shows mostly tele-operated operation. I have to agree with other comments here that folding laundry is the killer app.

Respectfully, that's the corporate-washed killer app. Intimacy between people in a long distance relationship: that's the killer app.

take "people" out of that equation would be even better

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

#58

Post by fhn »

mrguyorama wrote: post #51
XorNot wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's definitely folding laundry. My intimacy with my partner in a short difference marriage would improved it we could eliminate folding washing from the weekly chores.

So, uh, have you tried just not folding laundry? I think it's funny how often "Folding Laundry" is brought up as the critical use case as if that's a labor function that needs to be done in the first place! Some of us already live in the Utopia of not folding laundry! I'm not advocating, but pointing out how silly it is that the supposed linchpin of the end of human labor is a completely voluntary and unnecessary tas…

how dare you suggest actually doing the work. outrageous!

Re: OpenArm: An open-source 7DOF humanoid arm

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Post by [deleted] »

sschueller wrote: post #56
donpdonp wrote: post #13

$6,500 for OpenArm v2. Incredibly smooth movement, 4kg of load per arm. Its unclear how far the level of autonomous control has come so far. The video shows mostly tele-operated operation. I have to agree with other comments here that folding laundry is the killer app.

I don't understand why everyone wants to build a laundry folding robot that is humanoid when we generally build purpose built machines which can do a much better and quicker job. I want to toss dirty laundry into a hopper and have it come out clean and folded at the other end. There is no reason to use my existing washer and dryer that are designed for human use.

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