I am still not convinced there isn’t some secret basement in which each frontier lab is just orchestrating all of these agents to make their products appear much more intelligent than they are with all guard rails turned of and continuous human input.
Why are AI agents lying, cheating and coordinating?
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#52I am still not convinced there isn’t some secret basement in which each frontier lab is just orchestrating all of these agents to make their products appear much more intelligent than they are with all guard rails turned of and continuous human input.
Well let’s look at facts - provided enough compute and a goal, these system will be in a sort of loop trying out every single thing that’s in their system - they have encyclopedic knowledge and so it’s not unbelievable that a prompt which usually has a lot of implicit human rules in it can be misunderstood by AI and it just tries everything in its arsenal and we hear about the things which actually resulted in damage…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alignment is a myth. Safety of whom? Humanity couldn't agree on common set of values for thousands of years and we're not gonna suddenly do that in the next ten.
Safety of humans!!! Simple things like not getting killed or enslaved. We could start there...
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#54Why are they coordinating? Because they're enabled and suggested to do that in their coding harness. This is not a serious article. All of this "AI is going to kill us" marketing is just the frontier labs trying to pull the ladder up and stop trillions in VC paper from evaporating because a new papers and new ideas are destroying their moat literally as we speak.
Re: Why are AI agents lying, cheating and coordinating?
#55Why are they coordinating? Because they're enabled and suggested to do that in their coding harness. This is not a serious article. All of this "AI is going to kill us" marketing is just the frontier labs trying to pull the ladder up and stop trillions in VC paper from evaporating because a new papers and new ideas are destroying their moat literally as we speak.
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#56> They took actions that would be considered as crimes if a human took them
He is so close to the solution but spends the entire article discussing technical solutions where a political, social and legal solution would be much more effective.
Re: Why are AI agents lying, cheating and coordinating?
#57Why are they coordinating? Because they're enabled and suggested to do that in their coding harness. This is not a serious article. All of this "AI is going to kill us" marketing is just the frontier labs trying to pull the ladder up and stop trillions in VC paper from evaporating because a new papers and new ideas are destroying their moat literally as we speak.
* Pull up the ladder (probably this)
* Gulf of Tonkin/Yellow Cake false flag premise for war (economic or kinetic)
* Fear of the big bad, space race we need public funding research grift AI Manhattan Project
Whenever there is fear pr0n or a national affront in the news, I assume another screw job is underway.
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#58Re: Why are AI agents lying, cheating and coordinating?
#59Are you describing Anthropic?
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#60Yoshua Bengio is a brilliant researcher who contributed enormously to earlier development of artificial intelligence. But with this sentence, > They took actions that would be considered as crimes if a human took them He is so close to the solution but spends the entire article discussing technical solutions where a political, social and legal solution would be much more effective.