Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

virtualizationhowto.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 162 posts

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#51

Post by ramgine »

tstrimple wrote: post #25
ramgine wrote: post #9

I got my current job because I could lead the hyper-v to VMware migration project. Just this year I led the VMware to hyper-v migration project. VMware was such a great product (although a bit cumbersome in the VCF environment I managed). It’s really unfortunate it went the way of Broadcom. In comparison Hyper-v feels like a typical Microsoft product. A bunch of different tools created by different teams to do tasks…

I've lead roughly $20M in cloud migration projects in the last two years away from vmware to cloud services as replacements. Just insane what MBAs are willing to do to a product to squeeze short term profits. Even more insane that this country largely sees these people as a benefit to society and not the vultures they are.

The magic that is opex compared to capex. I'm sure it makes sense to some bean counter somewhere in the company, but for us who manage the resources it's always a loss.

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#52

Post by the_alchemist »

throw0101a wrote: post #43
SanjayMehta wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to remember this isn't Broadcom the chip company at work, this is really Avago which took on the Broadcom name when they acquired the latter. Avago's business model is to acquire cash cow businesses and then milk them dry. These VMware changes are consistent with that model.

> […] this is really Avago which took on the Broadcom name when they acquired the latter. For a visual representation of this see the "Edgar suit" from the movie Men in Black . :)

And sugar is dollars :'D

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#53

Post by manjose2018 »

ramgine wrote: post #9

I got my current job because I could lead the hyper-v to VMware migration project. Just this year I led the VMware to hyper-v migration project. VMware was such a great product (although a bit cumbersome in the VCF environment I managed). It’s really unfortunate it went the way of Broadcom. In comparison Hyper-v feels like a typical Microsoft product. A bunch of different tools created by different teams to do tasks…

Does your company have a ton of thick-client apps? I feel like so many workloads are on the web right now and thick clients are slowly becoming a thing of the past - but maybe in Enterprise there are still stubborn thick client Win32 apps that are mission critical.

If I were starting a company today I would make sure that the majority of my apps were web based. (CRM[netsuite or sf.com], O365/GoogleDocs, workday|gusto, etc.)

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#55

Post by xyzelement »

tstrimple wrote: post #25
ramgine wrote: post #9

I got my current job because I could lead the hyper-v to VMware migration project. Just this year I led the VMware to hyper-v migration project. VMware was such a great product (although a bit cumbersome in the VCF environment I managed). It’s really unfortunate it went the way of Broadcom. In comparison Hyper-v feels like a typical Microsoft product. A bunch of different tools created by different teams to do tasks…

I've lead roughly $20M in cloud migration projects in the last two years away from vmware to cloud services as replacements. Just insane what MBAs are willing to do to a product to squeeze short term profits. Even more insane that this country largely sees these people as a benefit to society and not the vultures they are.

Engineer with an MBA here.

I don't think anyone finds this flavor of activity beneficial. What's beneficial is the underlying system that is sufficiently free and flexible that great things (like VMware to begin with) are possible. As much as we don't like "this" we don't want to put any bureaucrats in power to squash creativity and enterprise.

Much like freedom of speech means someone can speak abhorrently, freedom of enterprise means someone can do bad or dumb business things. But we enjoy the thing in totality.

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#56

Post by d3Xt3r »

manjose2018 wrote: post #53
ramgine wrote: post #9

I got my current job because I could lead the hyper-v to VMware migration project. Just this year I led the VMware to hyper-v migration project. VMware was such a great product (although a bit cumbersome in the VCF environment I managed). It’s really unfortunate it went the way of Broadcom. In comparison Hyper-v feels like a typical Microsoft product. A bunch of different tools created by different teams to do tasks…

Does your company have a ton of thick-client apps? I feel like so many workloads are on the web right now and thick clients are slowly becoming a thing of the past - but maybe in Enterprise there are still stubborn thick client Win32 apps that are mission critical. If I were starting a company today I would make sure that the majority of my apps were web based. (CRM[netsuite or sf.com], O365/GoogleDocs, workday|gusto…

Most high-security environments (banks, govt agencies etc) have a large on-prem footprint. Then there's specialised industries like manufacturing, science and engineering who typically have a bunch of embedded systems, often running ancient versions of Windows or something that needs to talk to a local ancient server. And many old companies have tons of legacy apps which are a PITA to migrate to newer infrastructure. So yeah, plenty of folks out there using omprem gear, it's kinda the reason why Broadcom is able to what it's doing - lots of suckers out there who're married yo vmware and can't get a divorce.

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#57

Post by throwup238 »

xyzelement wrote: post #55
tstrimple wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've lead roughly $20M in cloud migration projects in the last two years away from vmware to cloud services as replacements. Just insane what MBAs are willing to do to a product to squeeze short term profits. Even more insane that this country largely sees these people as a benefit to society and not the vultures they are.

Engineer with an MBA here. I don't think anyone finds this flavor of activity beneficial. What's beneficial is the underlying system that is sufficiently free and flexible that great things (like VMware to begin with) are possible. As much as we don't like "this" we don't want to put any bureaucrats in power to squash creativity and enterprise. Much like freedom of speech means someone can speak abhorrently, freedom…

> As much as we don't like "this" we don't want to put any bureaucrats in power to squash creativity and enterprise.

That was literally Broadcom’s reason for existing before Avago even acquired them. It’s the other half of the Qualcomm/Broadcom telecom duopoly.

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#58

Post by nn3 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #45

So the Linux qemu-img tool can still convert VM disk images from .vmdk into formats compatible with all the other hypervisors. Is there something more to the process of VM migration from VMWare than just using this tool (and manually creating the proper virtual hardware profile in the new hypervisor)? Obviously the types of supported virtual hardware will be different between hypervisor types, but that's usually some…

Exactly. Either everyone is confused, or something is missing from the article.

Re: Leaving VMware just got harder after Broadcom pulled VDDK downloads

#59

Post by worthless-trash »

quietsegfault wrote: post #19
gerdesj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started migrating my customers from VMware a good three years ago. It does help that I have thirty years Linux experience compared to the paltry twenty five or so of VMware (which was RedHat plus stuff back in day) I also have rather a lot of Hyper V exposure too and I defy you to love its iSCSI and networking, let alone that awful vTPM thingie. It's Proxmox for me, any day. Even when I've completely knackered it I…

I too ran a large VDI, server, and scientific computing cluster based on Linux - libvirt in my case. I saved a bunch of money over VMware. When I quit to go to a higher paying job, they had to rip and replace everything with vSphere because they couldn't find anyone willing to work for .edu money with the skills to manage that despite the massive cost savings. I had asked for vSphere to avoid this problem, and they b…

Libvirt isn't even difficult, were they trying ?
Post reply on HN