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Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

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Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

#52
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Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

The SMB guys hold the Linux/FOSS community in pretty low regard: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/g072l/super_meat_boy_... [1]

So, I would take their current claim with a large grain of salt.

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[1] What's even sadder is Tommy (the programmer of the SMB team) clearly shows he knows nothing of Linux, the community, licensing, or even good programming for that matter. Here's a couple of examples:

1. There's a screenshot above of the lack of security with the high-score servers

2. Complete lack of portability. Humble Bundle of SMB (Linux port) doesn't even run.

3. Bugs. On Windows, you start the game and for some odd reason the game mutes itself.

The games great, but for such a buggy product, I'd keep programming opinions to myself.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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post #27
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Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

Pirates is way too heavy a term here. This is for-profit and closer to true piracy than file sharing is. It could be unintentional, but if they've already been contacted about it they really should be quicker to resolve the situation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, No surprise there, see http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1641/itsfinetrustme.png for an example of the judgment they've shown.

Tommy Refenes has stated in an interview[1] that he said "it's fine" just because at the time he couldn't do anything about it. The level editor was programmed in a rush and he didn't think that anyone would exploit something offered to them for free.

In the end, the guy who warned him that an "evil hacker" could compromise the system, turned out to be that evil hacker himself.

For us web devs it pretty obvious that anything that can be exploited will be exploited. Tommy was naive about it. Imho, his "it's fine" comment made it worse - what he should have said is "thanks, but I can't fix it right now".

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

#54
post #42

I thought piracy is cool now? Oh wait, it's only cool when the underdog does it. Nevermind.

In don't think the nuance here is about underdogs.

Most file sharing is not for profit. Most file sharing is some kid who couldn't have possibly bought everything downloaded because it would have cost more than his families entire salary. Does that make it right? No. But it's more like street graffiti or petty theft from a convenience store. The judicial system unfairly favors the big content companies in these situations and people face several hundred thousand dollar penalties. The spirit of these laws was to target people selling bootleg copies of DVDs on the street, not the people who bought those DVDs. Megavideo should be facing these types of penalties, not moms.

Megavideo was profiting from piracy so they are more culpable, but the preemptive actions taken were also inappropriate given the crime. Despite it being mostly used for piracy, people did have legitimate files on it and their access was unexpectly lost due to the improper actions. Besides the collateral damage, even guilty people should have a day in court before any punishment occurs, I don't care what the crime is or how obvious some non-judge individual thinks it is.

This case is someone profiting from unauthorized distribution. This is a case where the unjust law is unlikely to be relevant; if the government preemptively raided canonical I think you can safely assume there would be a shit storm of support on canonical's side.

People don't simply react to the original crimes, they are reacting to all of the other moves that happen after the crime comes to light. In this case there is no draconian antipiracy in effect, no individuals committing petty crime so they can watch HBO, instead there is the most visible open source software violating intellectual property law in a way that is unlikely to have any negative effect on the company besides one day of mildly bad PR.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

#56

This is typical of the behavior of companies that are trying desperately to stay afloat.

> This is typical of the type of behavior ...

This sentence was brought to you by the department of redundancy department.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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post #56

This is typical of the behavior of companies that are trying desperately to stay afloat.

> This is typical of the type of behavior ... This sentence was brought to you by the department of redundancy department.

Lol...I should have caught that. Derpity derr.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

>a serious crime

You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Piracy is not a crime, much less a serious one. Murder, for example, is a serious crime. Please don't spout nonsense. Copyright infringement is a civil offense, not even a felony.

That is not to say that what Canonical did - if the accusations are justified - is ethically sound. But please don't spread the bullshit propaganda of certain industry representatives.

Re: Ed McMillen: Ubuntu Store Sold Super Meat Boy Without Permission, Has Yet To Pay

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Pirates is way too heavy a term here. Canonical is large enough and the issue muddy enough that I don't think this is a warranted accusation. They're also shooting themselves in the foot, instead of coming to some kind of amicable arrangement they've now accused canonical of a serious crime which will lead to a response to that accusation rather than to a solution that would have been beneficial to all parties. If yo…

>a serious crime You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. Piracy is not a crime, much less a serious one. Murder, for example, is a serious crime. Please don't spout nonsense. Copyright infringement is a civil offense, not even a felony. That is not to say that what Canonical did - if the accusations are justified - is ethically sound. But please don't spread the bullshit propaganda o…

At least in the US, some forms of copyright infringement are crimes, as demonstrated by the Ninjavideo, TVshack, and Megaupload cases.
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