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Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The obvious use case, especially on HN, is frontend dev of any kind at all. The second most obvious one is OCR of paper documents.

Frontend Dev? I do not really understand. do you let the models analyze the webpages you are working on? or for testing?

It closes the development loop. Without it a model can't check if the stuff it made actually visually renders like it's supposed to. It can only guess/assume.

Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For really dumb models I've also had success automatically cropping it into a grid of N images with the max size, then processing each cell individually, then once all been processed, do one final call with resized image + all other context previously generated per cell. Basically a workaround to the image dimension restrictions without loosing fidelity. Works well with even dumb 7B models. Can't remember if I stole…

Does this not loose context? Especially e.g. in fonts where the character pairs 0O 1I 1l Il may be difficult to differentiate?

That's what the grid crop should handle. The detail is retained at that level, and then everything is logically stitched together again using the lower-res-full-image as reference. That's going to be 2x token usage at minimum though.

Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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DS being unable to precisely view Playwright screenshots is the only thing I really miss from Sonnet. This is promising. > Images are converted into tokens based on their dimensions, and these tokens are billed together with your text tokens. > Before inference, every image is automatically resized: > - Images with a total pixel count below roughly 384×384 are scaled up while preserving their aspect ratio. > - Larger…

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Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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For what do you guys use vision in those models? surveillance is the obvious use case... but are there some "nicer" ways to use it?

Any kind of spatial/graphical task is likely going to go better with a vision-capable model. Feed it a napkin-sketch of what your app should look like. Have it verify screenshots of the UI it just built. All of these one-shot-a-video-game evaluations that have suddenly become popular only work if the model can interpret screenshots...

Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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Interesting. Wasn't Deepseek's founder saying that they had explicitly decided not to focus on multimodal models at all and were going text-only because they believed it was enough to achieve AGI?

Worth noting that deepseek has had a separate vision-capable model for some time, which also powers their chat interface's vision mode

Re: DeepSeek-v4-flash-vision-exp

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post #37

For what do you guys use vision in those models? surveillance is the obvious use case... but are there some "nicer" ways to use it?

Going straight to surveillance and unable to think "nicer" ways... is strange.

1. process graphs and charts

2. process handwritten math formula, also chinese characters writings

3. process design sketch and wireframe

4. process scanned documents

... etc

in fact these transformer models currently suck for surveillance, too slow and expensive. There are already faster and better facial/gait/object recognition models out there.

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