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Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by i386 »

evoxed wrote: post #30
sgdesign wrote: post #4

I'm starting to realize that Instagram is not the service I thought it was. I initially thought it was Flickr with social features, but more and more it's turning into Facebook with photos. There is zero content discoveries features, so you have no way to get new followers or find new people to follow. And the top posters are all teenage pop stars that I've never even heard about who post completely uninteresting pho…

I've always had issues with certain details on Flickr (perhaps since the Yahoo acquisition; I honestly can't remember what was just carried over) such as the inability to download all your photos at once for backup, lockout of your own photos when your pro membership expires (combined with the aforementioned non-feature), and some other things. But as far as I can tell, the community is definitely there. Whenever I a…

What would you have them do when your Pro a account expires?

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by eropple »

mtgx wrote: post #29
callmeed wrote: post #17

This is going to get interesting. I know several professional photographers who use Instagram regularly (and are worth following). I suspect this will not sit well with some of them. I'm especially curious if Instagram will let people leave and remove their old photos easily. Some of them also post professional images they've imported from their computer ( not just phone images). For example, here's an image taken by…

Why is he even using Instagram? Doesn't seem like he used any filter there, did he? Seems like he's just using it to promote his own DSLR-made photos. Google+ might be a better target for that kind of community.

Instagram is commonly used to upload pictures for linking on Twitter, which is a considerably wider social network than Google+. I expect that'll change pretty rapidly pretty soon.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by kloncks »

Smrchy wrote: post #20
sgdesign wrote: post #4

I'm starting to realize that Instagram is not the service I thought it was. I initially thought it was Flickr with social features, but more and more it's turning into Facebook with photos. There is zero content discoveries features, so you have no way to get new followers or find new people to follow. And the top posters are all teenage pop stars that I've never even heard about who post completely uninteresting pho…

As soon as i read that FB was buying Instagram i quit and deleted my Instagram account. It was too predictable that something like this will happen. Mark Zuckerberg is in a horrible position. I bet he would love to just build a cool and useful product. Instead he is damned to roll out all these awful money making features. And quick. Not only for his investors but also for the staff that owns FB stock. How smooth cou…

What's the alternative? A cool and useful product that makes revenues how? How do you propose that Instagram actually make money?

Not attacking. Just wanted to hear more specific thoughts.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by 001sky »

declan wrote: post #43
cookiecaper wrote: post #31

This is not new. It seems that their new TOS explicitly lays out that your photos may be used in advertising, possibly due to a new law somewhere requiring specific notification and release, but my understanding is that you'd already given them this right based on this clause: By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the Instagram Services, you hereby grant to Instagram a non-exclusive, fully…

Agreed with aptwebapps. The old TOU, as you correctly say, is pretty standard. Twitter's is similar, and any company with decent lawyers is going to protect themselves with similar wording. The new TOU, however, heads in a different direction. The phrase "limited license" is gone. It's been replaced with the phrase "transferable, sub-licensable" license. Also new is "a business or other entity may pay us to display y…

The phrase "limited license" is gone. It's been replaced with the phrase "transferable, sub-licensable" license.

-- Material Adverse Change. For the consumer.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by rkwz »

kloncks wrote: post #53
Smrchy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as i read that FB was buying Instagram i quit and deleted my Instagram account. It was too predictable that something like this will happen. Mark Zuckerberg is in a horrible position. I bet he would love to just build a cool and useful product. Instead he is damned to roll out all these awful money making features. And quick. Not only for his investors but also for the staff that owns FB stock. How smooth cou…

What's the alternative? A cool and useful product that makes revenues how? How do you propose that Instagram actually make money? Not attacking. Just wanted to hear more specific thoughts.

Flickr, deviantART model - Freemium

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by uvTwitch »

wilfra wrote: post #42
Smrchy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as i read that FB was buying Instagram i quit and deleted my Instagram account. It was too predictable that something like this will happen. Mark Zuckerberg is in a horrible position. I bet he would love to just build a cool and useful product. Instead he is damned to roll out all these awful money making features. And quick. Not only for his investors but also for the staff that owns FB stock. How smooth cou…

Trust is earned. Zuck hasn't earned it yet. Not in the eyes of Wall Street. Look what Bezos had to go through to get where he is today: http://i.imgur.com/2ie9t.png

Sounds like the Eyes of Wall Street will end up sinking Facebook if they're not careful.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by mwill »

I hope casual and regular Instagram users riot over this change (doubt it, really), honestly, not for their sake, or to spite Facebook or Instagram, but simply because I'd really hate it if they started doing this, and it turns out to be an awesome money maker. I don't look forward to a web where that precedent is set.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by spacestation »

deleting your account is futile, photographs will still remain on their AWS account.

after deleting one of my accounts, I was suspicious that they would still keep the photographs.

So to test this, I made a dummy account named after where i live; nikkojapan http://instagram.com/nikkojapan/

i made a quick pointless photograph just to upload http://instagram.com/p/K8bx_ZB59K/

Here is the link that still exists to the photograph of an account that was deleted right after the Facebook acquisition announcement. http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/6d96aaa0a45611e1a9f712...

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by [deleted] »

uvTwitch wrote: post #56
wilfra wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust is earned. Zuck hasn't earned it yet. Not in the eyes of Wall Street. Look what Bezos had to go through to get where he is today: http://i.imgur.com/2ie9t.png

Sounds like the Eyes of Wall Street will end up sinking Facebook if they're not careful.

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