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The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by po1nt »

toasty228 wrote: post #39
rendall wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A government may have entirely benign reasons for creating a comprehensive population database, but you cannot guarantee who will control that database later. You have to trust the people who control it, not only now, but at all times in the future, but history does not support that. Nazi Germany and occupied forces used census data, municipal population registers, etc., to identify and track down targeted people. Th…

Uh? The reason is that the constitution doesn't explicitly allow the federal gov to do it, so it's a state power. It's not like you care about all the thing you enumerated, they literally ask you for your "race" when getting a driver's license, which is the defacto ID document anyways. You're installing flock cameras everywhere and gargling palantir's balls while they implement the surveillance state.

Yeah and that's exactly what shouldn't happen. Government's should not have a power to ask a private company for data under any circumstances and they should not make "race" a compulsory data to submit, so that you could exercise your rights.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by esikich »

po1nt wrote: post #45
Aozora7 wrote: post #26

This is one of the obvious consequences of not having a national identity number assigned to everyone at birth, which exist in most developed countries, except for anglosphere, for some reason.

Attaching numbers to people is unbelievably creepy. My identity is not a number. We recoil at the idea of having assigned and tattooed numbers on our bodies and I don't feel it's okay to do it, just so you could maybe avoid misidentification.

Is your identity a string of letters? Don't be ridiculous.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by po1nt »

ramraj07 wrote: post #47
po1nt wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attaching numbers to people is unbelievably creepy. My identity is not a number. We recoil at the idea of having assigned and tattooed numbers on our bodies and I don't feel it's okay to do it, just so you could maybe avoid misidentification.

Why did it need to go to tattooed numbers? Also the implication that cultures and countries which have happily accepted id numbers are filled with non individualistic people is it?

So that you could not impersonate some other identity. Same in the spirit of carrying a plastic card, just without somebody touching you by force.

Either way you are branded forever.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by Almondsetat »

po1nt wrote: post #45
Aozora7 wrote: post #26

This is one of the obvious consequences of not having a national identity number assigned to everyone at birth, which exist in most developed countries, except for anglosphere, for some reason.

Attaching numbers to people is unbelievably creepy. My identity is not a number. We recoil at the idea of having assigned and tattooed numbers on our bodies and I don't feel it's okay to do it, just so you could maybe avoid misidentification.

You are the one somehow conflating an identity card with your actual identity as a self, which seems extremely strange and spurious.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by Aozora7 »

pibaker wrote: post #50
ramraj07 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did it need to go to tattooed numbers? Also the implication that cultures and countries which have happily accepted id numbers are filled with non individualistic people is it?

> Why did it need to go to tattooed numbers Many countries have laws about having to carry an ID on you all the time. Not as bad as a tattoo, but still not acceptable IMO. > Also the implication that cultures and countries which have happily accepted id numbers are filled with non individualistic people is it? Are we really gonna keep pretending there are no differences between cultures?

Very few countries require you to carry an ID. Many countries require you to own one and keep it up to date, but don't care whether you carry it outside.

Also, I find the point kind of moot for the US where a driving license is essentially an ID card, you have to carry it to drive, and you have to drive to go anywhere in most places.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by nephihaha »

graemep wrote: post #38
Aozora7 wrote: post #26

This is one of the obvious consequences of not having a national identity number assigned to everyone at birth, which exist in most developed countries, except for anglosphere, for some reason.

National ID numbers will not help with cross border situations like this.

Don't worry, I don't doubt it will be turned into an international system like phone numbers.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by po1nt »

esikich wrote: post #52
po1nt wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attaching numbers to people is unbelievably creepy. My identity is not a number. We recoil at the idea of having assigned and tattooed numbers on our bodies and I don't feel it's okay to do it, just so you could maybe avoid misidentification.

Is your identity a string of letters? Don't be ridiculous.

Yes, if there is a set of strings that can uniquely identify you, and you can't have it removed, nor act like somebody else, it's your identity.

Even GDPR admits it

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Post by nephihaha »

mproud wrote: post #14
zhivota wrote: post #3

Honestly the best thing to do might be to change your name at this point. I'm glad my name is not common, this kind of issue is going to only get worse in the future.

I get phone calls for a guy named Randy about his business. I can’t for the life of me figure out how to make the phone calls stop. The simplest solution is to change my phone number. But a) why should I have to? it’s my number, dammit! b) how many accounts have 2FA? if I changed my number, what if I miss updating one that’s important? c) it could happen again If I change my number, however, that is the simplest way…

We managed to get given a drug dealer's former landline, and had to get it changed after strange calls in the middle of the night. Then our neighbours got the same number after about a year and had the same issue.
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