Old DeepSeek Flash 0731 prices have been independently reproduced.[1] The issue is DeepSeek being inundated and not having capacity to serve the demand, hence the price increases to significantly dampen demand. Never mind international demand either--just think about the magnitude of Chinese domestic demand. Prices for anything related to AI or computing in general (mobile phones, cloud data centre hosting, etc) will…
Reproduced on the CUDA stack right? Let's say DeepSeek is being forced to use the CANN stack, and the new pricing reflects the cost when 100% of inference is done with Huawei chips. Then, I suppose we can infer that: * CANN stack is 1.5x~2.3x less efficient in compute * CANN stack has 6x lower inter-connect capacity > computer chips once again become a commodity Ascend 950 is going for $7k to $9k with mediocre lookin…
DeepSeek API Pricing Update
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Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update
#52As well as the headline in/out changes, people heavily using agentic coding tools will want to note the 6x (off peak) and 12x (peak) increase to cache hit pricing on Pro (since cache hit can easily make up 90%+ of input on long sessions). DeepSeek was hugely underpricing cache hit pricing before and even after this increase they're still cheaper on that metric than every other provider I'm aware of, but it will put a…
The problem with DS Flash/Pro is that they are extreme reasoning heavy and step heavy. Step = cache hit. Reasoning = output hit. So the impact on those price increases will be felt much stronger. I think that Flash is still a usable model but Pro is DOA... Even before the price difference between Flash and Pro, vs the intelligence / problem solving / tool calling did not make sense. But now that gap has widen even mo…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Luna has one vendor and they can change the price any time. Deepseek is open and has dozens of vendors competing to serve it.
Can you help me find a few names? These are inference providers running open weights models, right? Thank you in advance!
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#54I pay for Google AI Pro (Bought a year in advance) and Gemini is so bad, I burned through 75% of my five hour allowance trying to get it to fix something. I pasted the same prompt into OpenCode, set to Deepseek v4 flash free and did it first try. I'm was going to purchase Opencode GO to try it, but seems my timing is really bad :( hope it doesn't go up too much in Opencode or they find other providers. Bad timing!
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if OpenRouter is blindly dispatching your requests This can somewhat be the case, depending on your config. I updated mine to make DeepSeek high priority because I was having a lot of cache misses and reliability issues with the default (cheapest (at face value)) providers, and cost was actually higher overall than anticipated. Was smooth sailing from then; might have to tweak things again now pricing has changed t…
I was having the same issue. Did not find any provider that had a cache hit rate anywhere close to DeepSeeks own API. Not sure if this was an OpenRouter issue or with the other inference providers.
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#56https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731#provid...
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#59There is no relative/percentage increases noted (understandably). Just because i'm lazy: roughly how much more expensive is it to work with v4 flash and v4 pro through the API, compared to before the price increases? Is it 2x, 5x, 10x higher?
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#60Interesting to see that peak hours are work hours in China, night in the US and Europe, and also morning in Europe. So Deepseek's customers are mostly domestic.