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Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by Forgeties79 »

fwip wrote: post #30
redlewel wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know right? Would be better to have a banner with the language logo than some totally out of place aislop image, almost makes you think this is a random person's blog and not the official Mojo site

I believe Mojo has been primarily using AI-generated imagery of its mascot for several years now, which politically aligns with its pivot to being a language for AI development.

Oh wow a business pivoted to AI what a shocker lmao (not directed at you/mocking you, to be clear)

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by swiftcoder »

manojlds wrote: post #49
swiftcoder wrote: post #39

I feel like this language would really benefit from some sort of 1-pager overview. I just spent a fair bit of time on the official site, and I still don't think I have a very good grasp of what problem this language aims to solve, or why I would select it over other similar languages

Python, but good.

I mean, it feels like "Python, but aiming at a completely different vertical that values native compilation and a borrow checker"? Which is not quite the same thing

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by steve1977 »

manojlds wrote: post #49
swiftcoder wrote: post #39

I feel like this language would really benefit from some sort of 1-pager overview. I just spent a fair bit of time on the official site, and I still don't think I have a very good grasp of what problem this language aims to solve, or why I would select it over other similar languages

Python, but good.

So, without significant indentation?

Re: Mojo 1.0

#54

Post by akshitgaur2005 »

rirze wrote: post #43
minraws wrote: post #29

> Finally, we will continue to progressively open-source more of the Mojo language, as well as components in MAX that we have built with it. Our commitment remains unchanged – we will open source the Mojo compiler and toolchain in 2026. Why not now though? Why wait for 4 more months? What magic is there to hide in just making it source available at least.

It's probably very messy and not a great baseline for outside contributors to start create PRs. That's the favorable interpretation, atleast.

They could go the sqlite route for it then, no outside code but let us have a look

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by r_lee »

the 1.0 release of Mojo, it's a pretty big event, of course first thing I'm greeted with is an AI slop image on the top of the blog post

awesome

Re: Mojo 1.0

#56

Post by pbronez »

xiphias2 wrote: post #13

Mojo may be interesting to me, but they should really split it from Max, which is some closed stuff I'm not interested in. They should show some performance comparisions between PyTorch and Mojo, PyTorch+kernel compilation + Triton vs Mojo, ThunderKittens vs Mojo.

Aren’t they already separated? Max is an inference runtime, written in Mojolang, which uses the MLIR compiler chain to target diverse accelerator hardware.

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by mike_hearn »

redlewel wrote: post #22
pjmlp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

C and C++ were closed source for quite some time, they still are in places like commercial embedded OSes and console dev kits, even when they happen to be GCC and clang forks nowadays. Clang actually has replaced most GCC forks exactly because vendors can keep the fork closed source.

Sure but at those times C and C++ had no immediate replacement, and if you were doing embedded C/C++ was your only option. The same cannot be said for Mojo.

There were competitors. Pascal and assembly, most obviously.

It was just a different culture. There was no expectation that everything should be free.

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by totalperspectiv »

swiftcoder wrote: post #39

I feel like this language would really benefit from some sort of 1-pager overview. I just spent a fair bit of time on the official site, and I still don't think I have a very good grasp of what problem this language aims to solve, or why I would select it over other similar languages

Having written a lot of Mojo over the last two year, just for fun, it's a really cool language. Ownership model adjacent to Rust, comptime in the realm of Zig, rich type system, first class SIMD support, etc. Performance wise it's the first language in long time that isn't just an LLVM wrapper. LLVM is still involved, but they are using it differently than say, Rust or Zig.

Very excited for Mojo once it's open sourced later this year.

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by embedding-shape »

swiftcoder wrote: post #39

I feel like this language would really benefit from some sort of 1-pager overview. I just spent a fair bit of time on the official site, and I still don't think I have a very good grasp of what problem this language aims to solve, or why I would select it over other similar languages

I felt the same way, even after browsing around on the website, and somehow I got to https://mojolang.org/docs/manual/quickstart/, which brings you to mojolang.org instead, which is the real website of the language it seems, instead of "Modular" which I guess is the business.

https://mojolang.org is a lot better as a introduction to the language for a programmer, at least for me, compared to whatever I could find on the modular.com website.

Re: Mojo 1.0

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Post by ainch »

fwip wrote: post #30
redlewel wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know right? Would be better to have a banner with the language logo than some totally out of place aislop image, almost makes you think this is a random person's blog and not the official Mojo site

I believe Mojo has been primarily using AI-generated imagery of its mascot for several years now, which politically aligns with its pivot to being a language for AI development.

I wouldn't say there was a pivot, AI development has explicitly been the goal since launch.
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