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Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

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Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

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Why do we put so much focus on CO2 emissions?

Sure, climate change is bad and has the potential to disrupt and end the lives of many in the future. But other forms of air pollution like pm2.5 particulates in the air are already causing an estimated 5 million premature deaths per year as well as a slew of other health problems including lowering of IQ.

Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

#54

This is so unacceptable. Build as many data centers as you want, but fossil fuels NEED to stop yesterday.

> fossil fuels NEED to stop yesterday

At the current rate it will stop in four to ten centuries.

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Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

#55

Why do we put so much focus on CO2 emissions? Sure, climate change is bad and has the potential to disrupt and end the lives of many in the future. But other forms of air pollution like pm2.5 particulates in the air are already causing an estimated 5 million premature deaths per year as well as a slew of other health problems including lowering of IQ.

Why not both?

Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

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It's possibly worth noting that the source for this is an application for a permit > GW Ranch received a permit from the state of Texas allowing the gas power plant to emit 33 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. If the project emitted that much CO2, it would be the largest single source of pollution in the United States Immediately following that is the text "It’s worth noting that companies rarely em…

You're right--it's probably fine. Why focus on this one source of pollution when there are others?

Because this one lets consumers pretend they aren’t the source of pollution lol

Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

#57
post #43

This is so unacceptable. Build as many data centers as you want, but fossil fuels NEED to stop yesterday.

In broad strokes I tend to agree. I think there is a fairly good path to moving most things to electricity and in turn moving most electricity generation to renewables. The more nuanced view is that I would support a residual use of fossil fuels for niche applications that require the properties of the fuel in instances where no known substitute solution would do the job. By and large, renewables are marching towards…

It’s largely associated methane co-produced from oil production in the Permian. The economics of co-production means that the gas is often the cheapest in the nation and can have negative prices during large oil production swings. I believe it went nearly -$10 MMBtu this year at one point.

Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

#58

Why do we put so much focus on CO2 emissions? Sure, climate change is bad and has the potential to disrupt and end the lives of many in the future. But other forms of air pollution like pm2.5 particulates in the air are already causing an estimated 5 million premature deaths per year as well as a slew of other health problems including lowering of IQ.

> Why do we put so much focus on CO2 emissions?

Any amount of focus would be "so much".

I gather you believe other people pay too much attention to CO2.

That the planet is warming suggests to me they do not pay enough.

Re: Amazon backs power plant that may become top source of US climate pollution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is, putting it gently, not a majority opinion in the US and especially not in Texas. Texas is the largest producer of renewable energy in the country.

Yes, because they have open permitting and encourage development. But they are also the largest producers of fossil fuels in the country.

They're actually not the highest on a per capita basis. 3 states produce more than double Texas's, by that metric.
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