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Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

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Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

#51

The quantum flux parametron is a really fascinating design and I always wondered why no one talks about it. You can get to GHz range easily and computing will be adiabatic. Its based on Josephson-junctions so you need to provide very low temperatures. I always thought it was a more promising next gen compute technology than the current quantum computers. Especially when you get to write your own SQUIDs in a SEM. Its…

"Quantum Flux Parametron" is also the most awesomest sci-fi sounding name, straight out of Buck Rogers.

"SQUID Sandwich" would be a great band name.

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

#52

The quantum flux parametron is a really fascinating design and I always wondered why no one talks about it. You can get to GHz range easily and computing will be adiabatic. Its based on Josephson-junctions so you need to provide very low temperatures. I always thought it was a more promising next gen compute technology than the current quantum computers. Especially when you get to write your own SQUIDs in a SEM. Its…

"Quantum Flux Parametron" is also the most awesomest sci-fi sounding name, straight out of Buck Rogers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaKjVXK0KA

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

#53
post #4

>Eiichi Goto Is it nominative determinism if it's 2 years before the introduction of Goto (1956, Fortran apparently) Or maybe it was named in his honour?

pronounced `go toe`

Unlike the Fortran statement which is pronounced `jo toe`.

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

#54

The quantum flux parametron is a really fascinating design and I always wondered why no one talks about it. You can get to GHz range easily and computing will be adiabatic. Its based on Josephson-junctions so you need to provide very low temperatures. I always thought it was a more promising next gen compute technology than the current quantum computers. Especially when you get to write your own SQUIDs in a SEM. Its…

"why no one talks about [all the other alternatives]"

Expanding the question because it's the same answer for all of them: The relatively steady exponential progress of transistors murdered all the competition. Nobody had any time to think about anything else when 18 months from now the transistors would be twice as fast and cheaper at the same time. It also meant a technology had to pretty much come out of the gate already better than transistors which had been through numerous doublings. It doesn't matter if you produced something that could hypothetically double every three months for ten years if it started out a hundred times slower and a thousand times more expensive than the transistors at release day. It couldn't survive long enough in the market to get funded long enough to develop that far.

It's only now that you can really get going on some alternative... and it still kind of sucks that even so you need to produce something out of the lab that beats transistors on some relevant metric right now if you want to get anywhere. Trillions of dollars of investment into transistors is hard for any tech to overcome, even if hypothetically in 10 years it could spank transistors somehow.

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

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post #39

The history of computing is usually described as a nice progression from vacuum tubes to transistors and then ICs. But parametrons are only one of the many forgotten technologies that popped up along the way. Magnetic core logic such as transfluxors was used in several computers. Superconducting cryotrons were going to revolutionize computers. Tunnel-diode logic was also briefly the wave of the future. Other signific…

Don't forget good old relays.

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

#57

EAC-1101 In March 1958, NEC finished its first digital computer, the NEAC-1101. This machine used parametrons, invented by Eiichi Goto in 1954, and was perfected by using a single-turn transformer coupling system independently devised by NEC. This computer was designed for scientific and engineering calculations, and was Japan's first computer to use floating point operations. It was capable of decimal 7-digit floati…

At 8.0ms for mult/div, that would make it right on par with a Commodore 64's BASIC math routines, even though it came 24 years earlier. That's pretty freaking impressive.

Re: Parametron: 50s Japanese computer that uses neither transistors nor vacuum tubes

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Quantum Flux Parametron" is also the most awesomest sci-fi sounding name, straight out of Buck Rogers.

"SQUID Sandwich" would be a great band name.

I don't know about other countries, but squid sandwiches are very popular in Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_sandwich
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