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Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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$84,500 in the pockets of the government's favorite contracting companies. $500 to the guy who pressure washes it off the side of the building

The article discusses this. They attempted to wash it off the building and failed.

Scrape it off. Lose a millimeter of the stone. Not the end of the world. These are self inflicted bullshit costs that cripple the government. Use common sense. If it's legally impossible, then update the laws to be sane.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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In case it's not clear from the story: a big part of the expense here is that the mural was painted onto the Royal Courts of Justice building, which is a Grade I preserved building, putting it in the same tier of building preservation as the Tower of London and the Palace of Westminster. Some of the things you'd do to get graffiti off a subway tunnel wall or a brutalist municipal building in the US (like using a high-powered pressure washer) can't be done to the RCJ building without risking damage to the structure.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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For the comments questioning why the MoJ are doing this, and the reason for the costs, the information can be found in the article: > A HM Courts and Tribunals Service (HMCTS) spokesperson said: "The Royal Courts of Justice is a listed building and HMCTS are obliged to maintain its original character." This is the why . HMCTS don't have the option to "just leave it" because they're obligated by legislation to remove…

The dull blocks have no character, the artwork in contrast captures and hammers out the original character. It doesn't have to be true, nothing ever has, they just need to rubber stamp it as such.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

#54

They could do nothing and just let the art exist for free.

Not free, at the cost of the beauty of the vandalized area

Demolish the building leaving only the wall then make a park around it and name it after the guy who ordered the demolition.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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post #53
post #46

For the comments questioning why the MoJ are doing this, and the reason for the costs, the information can be found in the article: > A HM Courts and Tribunals Service (HMCTS) spokesperson said: "The Royal Courts of Justice is a listed building and HMCTS are obliged to maintain its original character." This is the why . HMCTS don't have the option to "just leave it" because they're obligated by legislation to remove…

The dull blocks have no character, the artwork in contrast captures and hammers out the original character. It doesn't have to be true, nothing ever has, they just need to rubber stamp it as such.

> The dull blocks have no character

That's your opinion and irrelevant. The Grade-II classification and the requirements it imposes don't care about your opinion.

> the artwork in contrast captures and hammers out the original character.

That's your opinion and irrelevant. The Grade-II classification and the requirements it imposes don't care about your opinion.

> It doesn't have to be true, nothing ever has, they just need to rubber stamp it as such.

What on earth are you waffling on about? Speak like a human being instead of getting ChatGPT to write comments for you.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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post #49
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You think a stone building is hard to clean with a Kärcher?

Not without damaging the masonry. It wouldn't matter at all if it were a standard municipal building, but this building is protected. If Banksy stenciled another My Chemical Romance poster on the Frank Lloyd Wright Unity Temple in Oak Park, you'd get a flavor for how complicated the discussion would be.

I have no idea what that temple is or which oak park you mean but I will take your words for it

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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post #56
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not without damaging the masonry. It wouldn't matter at all if it were a standard municipal building, but this building is protected. If Banksy stenciled another My Chemical Romance poster on the Frank Lloyd Wright Unity Temple in Oak Park, you'd get a flavor for how complicated the discussion would be.

I have no idea what that temple is or which oak park you mean but I will take your words for it

It's one of the most famous Frank Lloyd Wright buildings (and architecturally one of his most important, and, apropos this story, his building that is most like the RCJ.)

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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post #55
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dull blocks have no character, the artwork in contrast captures and hammers out the original character. It doesn't have to be true, nothing ever has, they just need to rubber stamp it as such.

> The dull blocks have no character That's your opinion and irrelevant. The Grade-II classification and the requirements it imposes don't care about your opinion. > the artwork in contrast captures and hammers out the original character. That's your opinion and irrelevant. The Grade-II classification and the requirements it imposes don't care about your opinion. > It doesn't have to be true, nothing ever has, they ju…

Is there a second Grade II Royal Court of Justice building on Carey Street in London? Because the Royal Court of Justice is a Grade I building, and it's on Carey Street.

Re: Banksy works cost public almost £150k

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post #23

"Think of the money!" This mentality needs to go extinct. Along with billionaires.

A multi-millionaire artist costs society £150k in damages and you are OK with that? Why doesn’t the artist pay for the cleanup and removal? They have more than enough money.

It's okay because it upsets all the right people.
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