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Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

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Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#51

That's the correct way to do it. Age should be something reported by browser/os/hardware. Something similar to User-Agent. I really hope this will end the whole third party age verification farce.

Remember. We should do absolutely everything in our power to not hold these companies responsible.

What does "hold these companies responsible" look like to you? I see a lot of empty rhetoric without things being spelled out. If you just want these companies to not exist, just say that.

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#52

What's most shocking to me is the willingness to comply on display here and elsewhere. If the state proposes you stick a corncob up your rear, your initial response shouldn't be to ask if they prefer you use a rubber or wooden mallet to achieve compliance.

Wooden. Definitely wooden.

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#53
The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will the new normal be? Legislation like this is a win all around, a complete nothingburger. We should be celebrating it, not fighting it tooth and nail.

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#54
post #21

Background: Meta/Facebook, Google and Apple all support age verification. It gives them legal cover and for their ad platforms gives better data. But Meta/FB have been strongly lobbying to make it required at the OS level, so they aren't responsible for it, whereas Google and Apple both want it to be an application responsibility. I think the CA version of this ended up with a carve-out for open source? I can't recal…

> all support age verification No, they all support harvesting your data so they can continue doing what they do best: building shadow profiles and targeting ads. Nothing a signal of an age group tells them more than "send me more ads for XX year-olds". Why do you think it's always a question asked in online surveys?

>> for their ad platforms gives better data

> No, they all support harvesting your data so they can continue doing what they do best: building shadow profiles and targeting ads.

I think we are agreeing adamantly here?

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#56
At the end of the day, it is my job as a parent to steer my kids out of harm’s way, be it the alley where they will find the local dealer, the park where people are injecting at night, or not stuffing their faces with sugar, or social media.

The “Bob and Alice are technically illiterate” defence doesn’t hold. I’m gun illiterate but I wouldn’t buy one for my kids.

Do I feel bad for the kid that killed himself doing something stupid he say at TikTok? Yes. Do I feel bad the for parents that gave a phone with TikTok to an unsupervised 11 year old? Not really.

Parents must take responsibility.

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#57
post #33

Seeing as this is Illinois we're talking about, it's probably less about protecting kids and more about extorting punitive fines from tech companies for non-compliance. > violations can cost up to $50,000 each I hear slot machine noises.

it's a strange business model that works for the EU

Thinking of everything as a business model: This is your brain on capitalism.

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#58

What's most shocking to me is the willingness to comply on display here and elsewhere. If the state proposes you stick a corncob up your rear, your initial response shouldn't be to ask if they prefer you use a rubber or wooden mallet to achieve compliance.

Rectum? Damn near killed 'em!

Re: Illinois just told every operating system to start reporting your kid's age

#60

The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will…

> This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking.

Less bad is still bad.

Normalizing a gated, state controlled internet is bad.

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