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Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by qarl2 »

overgard wrote: post #45
qarl2 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love for you to cite a single one. It must take a binary executable and derive English names for the memory addresses.

I used to use dotPeek all the time back in like 2012. There are also things like Ghidra that the NSA made. I dunno, google them, there are a lot. I'm not saying LLMs aren't useful here, just that it's not a huge deal. Also, why are AI people always making tools to take other people's IP? You are kind of fucking with people's intellectual property without permission it seems like. I'm not saying it's the crime of the…

> there are a lot

There are none.

Ghidra does not provide semantic names.

dotPeek shows you the symbols that were not stripped from the .NET.

Neither of these can do what I asked.

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by qarl2 »

chaps wrote: post #47
qarl2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As near as I can tell - your argument boils down to "I've seen other people make mistakes so you must be also."

If that's what you got from it, then I hope you have a good life. Be kinder, friend.

If you can point to a single error in my argument I would love to talk to you about it.

Otherwise, you have a good life as well.

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

#53

Post by fragmede »

Planktonne wrote: post #43
qarl2 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just showed you something that would have been considered a miracle one year ago. And your response was "So what - show me another one."

I'm not disputing that it's a hard thing to do, but we had decompilers before; "miracle" is rather stretching it. Even granting that framing though, the claimed increase in productivity isn't a one-off, but asserted for everyone using them; you're claiming mass-produced miracles but trying to depend on a single example.

Snowboard kids 2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48284494

Silent Hill 1 PC https://youtu.be/0niadQJmYx0

Super Smash Bros/other GameCube and Wii games https://www.reddit.com/r/decomps/comments/1uvttvy/moderngekk...

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

#54

Post by fragmede »

overgard wrote: post #45
qarl2 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love for you to cite a single one. It must take a binary executable and derive English names for the memory addresses.

I used to use dotPeek all the time back in like 2012. There are also things like Ghidra that the NSA made. I dunno, google them, there are a lot. I'm not saying LLMs aren't useful here, just that it's not a huge deal. Also, why are AI people always making tools to take other people's IP? You are kind of fucking with people's intellectual property without permission it seems like. I'm not saying it's the crime of the…

lol you think he hasn't heard of Ghidra? How stupid do you think he is?

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by chaps »

qarl2 wrote: post #52
chaps wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what you got from it, then I hope you have a good life. Be kinder, friend.

If you can point to a single error in my argument I would love to talk to you about it. Otherwise, you have a good life as well.

My point is just that you're talking past people and being an asshole in the process. Not everything is about winning an argument. Lower your temperature and you'll have more productive discussions that revolve around disagreements.

Cheers.

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by qarl2 »

chaps wrote: post #55
qarl2 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can point to a single error in my argument I would love to talk to you about it. Otherwise, you have a good life as well.

My point is just that you're talking past people and being an asshole in the process. Not everything is about winning an argument. Lower your temperature and you'll have more productive discussions that revolve around disagreements. Cheers.

No. I am not talking past anyone. I am providing cogent argumentation and evidence. And I'm being met with nonsense and platitudes.

And... I didn't start it.

Cheers.

EDIT: Good choice.

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by [deleted] »

qarl2 wrote: post #56
chaps wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is just that you're talking past people and being an asshole in the process. Not everything is about winning an argument. Lower your temperature and you'll have more productive discussions that revolve around disagreements. Cheers.

No. I am not talking past anyone. I am providing cogent argumentation and evidence. And I'm being met with nonsense and platitudes. And... I didn't start it. Cheers. EDIT: Good choice.

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Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by SwellJoe »

I've said before that in one small way, having access to the sycophantic models is like being a billionaire: You never have to hear "no" or "that's not a good idea".

And, it has the same deleterious effect on your mental health. I could name a bunch of billionaires that behave like sociopaths, and they're often seemingly miserable while doing it. I'm sure some of them started out as sociopaths, but they rarely behaved that way so obviously early in their rise.

Re: Sycophantic AI Decreases Prosocial Intentions and Promotes Dependence (2025)

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Post by romaniitedomum »

> This suggests that people are drawn to AI that unquestioningly validate, even as that validation risks eroding their judgment

The obvious counterpoint is the large number of complaints about OpenAI's excessively sycophantic models back in April 2026, which led to them rolling back to a previous and less sycophantic model. I think there are those who are susceptible to model sycophancy, but it's definitely not most users. I have a vague, half-formed intuition that many of those susceptible to sycophancy are those who use AI for non-technical, non-work uses, such as inter-personal relationship questions.

As for me, as soon as I see any hint of sycophancy in a response I either stop what I'm doing or I tell the model to stop being an idiot.

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