Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit" • Hacker News Board

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by auston » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 9:43 PM UTC

unalone wrote: post #43

vaksel wrote: post #34

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who knows if that really happened, or if Arrington was just linkbaiting to make money

Don't treat Arrington like some soulless mythical creature. He's a real person. He's susceptible to being offended enough to get pissed off at people and to rant even when he's been in the business for a long time. Can you imagine how low you'd have to be to fake an incident like that just to get a few hits? Arrington has his faults, but he's not a showboater. (Also remember that this article was posted while he's ta…

I don't think that anyone is treating him as a "soulless mythical creature", I am interpreting this as people viewing Michael Arrington as a person of low morals/values.

Additionally, I dont actually see anyone blaming Arrington in this thread - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=491784

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by maxawaytoolong » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 9:49 PM UTC

vaksel wrote: post #49

unalone wrote: post #48

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I fail to see how HIV came into this conversation.

you never know what the other person has, doesn't hurt to be careful in this day and age

In breaking news, people in Europe get divorced, and HIV isn't transmitted through spitting.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by ramchip » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 10:03 PM UTC

davidw wrote: post #32

endtime wrote: post #28

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I can't see why you got down voted. Probably because his comment isn't interesting, isn't relevant, and doesn't contribute to discussion. There are all kinds of true but uninteresting comments one can make, but making them shouldn't be encouraged. Edit: I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but actively discouraging uninteresting comments is what keeps the signal:noise ratio high here.

Exactly. However, once upon a time, this site also had a tradition of not downvoting people all that much for comments that were simply a bit inane or misguided, rather than actively trolling or flaming.

I'd like to concur on that. I was a bit surprised when I got -4'd for stating that a website ad caused trouble on Opera (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=491583). Perhaps I sounded harsh as well, but still, the goal was just to help...

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by rbanffy » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 10:23 PM UTC

vaksel wrote: post #39

tonystubblebine wrote: post #36

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We are. Hacker News is the top spot for getting news relevant to startups.

well we are more of a news aggregating service, need some original content. Need more stories to break on HN

I really don't think we need TC-like original content. That wouldn't be a step in the right direction.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by unalone » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 10:26 PM UTC

auston wrote: post #51

unalone wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't treat Arrington like some soulless mythical creature. He's a real person. He's susceptible to being offended enough to get pissed off at people and to rant even when he's been in the business for a long time. Can you imagine how low you'd have to be to fake an incident like that just to get a few hits? Arrington has his faults, but he's not a showboater. (Also remember that this article was posted while he's ta…

I don't think that anyone is treating him as a "soulless mythical creature", I am interpreting this as people viewing Michael Arrington as a person of low morals/values. Additionally, I dont actually see anyone blaming Arrington in this thread - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=491784

There's a tendency to assume that people that aren't you are heartless and will do things you never would do yourself. That's very rarely the case. In this case, assuming Arrington would make a huge drama for nothing, claim somebody did something they didn't, and leave the scene just to get some hits is treating him like somebody who's a tad inhuman.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by vaksel » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 10:28 PM UTC

rbanffy wrote: post #54

vaksel wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well we are more of a news aggregating service, need some original content. Need more stories to break on HN

I really don't think we need TC-like original content. That wouldn't be a step in the right direction.

not original content per se, but breaking of new stories. Before other sites. There's been a small amount of those before, but could always use more.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by dunk010 » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 10:58 PM UTC

j2d2 wrote: post #17

gstar wrote: post #2

I'm chuffed that a respectable outfit like last.fm publishes a blog post with a title like that. About time. Techcrunch has been on the inflection point of "mattering" to the wider public, which scares the life out of me!

It's not even grammatically correct! "Techcrunch is full of shit" would be right.

Perhaps, you know, it might have been intentional......

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by jacquesm » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 11:05 PM UTC

chiffonade wrote: post #44

aristus wrote: post #38

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Not quite -- the underlying concept is a "company" in the sense of a troupe, band, eg "The King's Men", the "Dorrit's Chalk-Weavers", "Harold & Sons". The idea of a "corporate person" is much more recent, like 1880's, and I think started in the US.

No, you're wrong. The concept of corporate singularity started in the 1600s in England. From wikipedia: In the late seventeenth century, Stewart Kyd, the author of the first treatise on corporate law in English, defined a corporation as, "a collection of many individuals united into one body, under a special denomination, having perpetual succession under an artificial form, and vested, by policy of the law, with the…

actually, it started in Holland with the V.O.C.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by jacquesm » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 11:06 PM UTC

tonystubblebine wrote: post #41

vaksel wrote: post #39

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well we are more of a news aggregating service, need some original content. Need more stories to break on HN

You don't have to have the same form as something in order to replace it. I don't think the number of breaking stories has any effect on the quality of HN.

In fact, I think that more 'breaking' stories is going to have a negative effect.

Re: Last.fm: "Techcrunch are full of shit"

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Post by ewiethoff » Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 11:15 PM UTC

maxawaytoolong wrote: post #52

vaksel wrote: post #49

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you never know what the other person has, doesn't hurt to be careful in this day and age

In breaking news, people in Europe get divorced, and HIV isn't transmitted through spitting.

> HIV isn't transmitted through spitting.

I believe you are correct. I have no clue whether vaksel is American, but I do think Americans (I'm one) have absorbed--been fed?--a fair amount of hooey about HIV transmission and how to be "safe." Keep in mind, if you're old enough, AIDS was/is "that gay disease" and something quite a small number of injecting druggies were getting--as the "need" for a War on Drugs was building. I'm sorry to report, Americans are a fearful lot.