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A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

cwnyth wrote: post #45
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physical Brick and Mortar locations no longer make sense for many retail businesses, as Walmart/Amazon have same day delivery. If folks have ever been financially bent-over for a retail business shop location they understand why margins matter. One has to move a lot of inventory just to reach a profit mode. Gimmicks only work for awhile, as consumers have full market awareness on their smartphone. =3

The malls in Japan and Thailand are booming. There are a ton of crowds, they have plenty in stock, there are dozens of restaurants that keep people in. You can also do delivery in those places. I think a lot of places in the west, but America especially, convinced themselves their poorly run physical stores, owned and nigh operated by venture capitalists, is an indicator that people don't need them anymore. The world…

There are cultural differences in attitudes toward workmanship in places like Japan. Indeed, the Mitutoyo factory products have an excellent reputation even in North America (assuming you find a legitimate source.)

North American business culture has changed, and will likely continue to degenerate with disconnected trust-fund kids running things. =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE75WvOtcu8

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by 6510 »

It seems a lot like the employees don't want to keep their job? If your boss is... well... dumb? You have to fill the gap or the company wont survive.

Could have a similar store ran by a human - for science.

Could also set things up properly in advance. Humans don't hold everything in memory, we run agendas, we have a database with products, we have a rolodex to call people to help us with stuff we are bad at. There might be a consultant crazy enough to do a no cure no pay.

Like with basic income experiments one can do research cheaply in cheaper countries. The thing has few issues with language barriers.

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by dylan604 »

fluoridation wrote: post #50
dylan604 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it confused metric and imperial units?? The order form had text entry with a value of 2 with no units. The user assumed 2" but the print house assumed 2mm. Always always always show your units. I can still hear the voice of my high school physics teacher saying that.

It's equally likely that the unit was implied by other content around the input field and the model didn't make the connection (like "scale: [___] mm"), or perhaps the file format was just wrong and a human placing the order would have resulted in the same outcome.

I think if a human received artwork and was then told to scale it down to 2mm on a mug so that it was just a dot, that the human would ask some questions. This context that keeps being talked about is kind of important yet so sorely not working

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by dgellow »

Joel_Mckay wrote: post #51
cwnyth wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The malls in Japan and Thailand are booming. There are a ton of crowds, they have plenty in stock, there are dozens of restaurants that keep people in. You can also do delivery in those places. I think a lot of places in the west, but America especially, convinced themselves their poorly run physical stores, owned and nigh operated by venture capitalists, is an indicator that people don't need them anymore. The world…

There are cultural differences in attitudes toward workmanship in places like Japan. Indeed, the Mitutoyo factory products have an excellent reputation even in North America (assuming you find a legitimate source.) North American business culture has changed, and will likely continue to degenerate with disconnected trust-fund kids running things. =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE75WvOtcu8

Malls in Berlin and Hamburg are also pretty crowded, fwiw

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by walrus01 »

dgellow wrote: post #55
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are cultural differences in attitudes toward workmanship in places like Japan. Indeed, the Mitutoyo factory products have an excellent reputation even in North America (assuming you find a legitimate source.) North American business culture has changed, and will likely continue to degenerate with disconnected trust-fund kids running things. =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE75WvOtcu8

Malls in Berlin and Hamburg are also pretty crowded, fwiw

Certain malls in North American cities with dense urban populations and good transit links are also very busy. For instance Metrotown in the centre of Burnaby, BC. I'd guess it has a https://www.metropolisatmetrotown.com/directory/

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

dgellow wrote: post #55
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are cultural differences in attitudes toward workmanship in places like Japan. Indeed, the Mitutoyo factory products have an excellent reputation even in North America (assuming you find a legitimate source.) North American business culture has changed, and will likely continue to degenerate with disconnected trust-fund kids running things. =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE75WvOtcu8

Malls in Berlin and Hamburg are also pretty crowded, fwiw

In is very common to see classic German brands traditionally trusted for precision/quality parts, to be purchased by China based traders. It should be illegal, but it is no longer technically counterfeit product.

Should have seen the puzzled sour face I made when replacement "New German" cross-roller linear optical-slides were bouncing 8x out of spec compared to a 40 year old part they were supposed to fix. lol =3

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by fluoridation »

dylan604 wrote: post #54
fluoridation wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's equally likely that the unit was implied by other content around the input field and the model didn't make the connection (like "scale: [___] mm"), or perhaps the file format was just wrong and a human placing the order would have resulted in the same outcome.

I think if a human received artwork and was then told to scale it down to 2mm on a mug so that it was just a dot, that the human would ask some questions. This context that keeps being talked about is kind of important yet so sorely not working

What I mean is that the file was specified in one unit/resolution and the site expected a different one. Like, "draw a circle of radius 2 at (3, 3)".

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

walrus01 wrote: post #56
dgellow wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Malls in Berlin and Hamburg are also pretty crowded, fwiw

Certain malls in North American cities with dense urban populations and good transit links are also very busy. For instance Metrotown in the centre of Burnaby, BC. I'd guess it has a https://www.metropolisatmetrotown.com/directory/

The GVRD has some of the most expensive real-estate in the world, and a lot of other external factors driving business decisions. The high lease churn-rate is also part of the problem, as commercial businesses have zero legal protection from extortionary rate increases.

There is also a large southeast asian population in that part of the city. Lots of nail salons, bubble tea shops, and cheap import products. With a Crystal Mall across the street, and no paying customers walking around. =3

Re: A new study of a bot running a store finds it is friendly but not very smart

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Post by light_triad »

According to this blog post by Anton Labs they are using Sonnet 4.6: https://andonlabs.com/blog/andon-market-launch

> Mr. Petersson and Mr. Backlund said they thought Luna would eventually get smarter and more business-savvy

> having an A.I. boss can be like working for a teddy bear with amnesia.

It makes you question their assumptions when setting this up. Makes sense as PR but it ends up shaping how many readers see AI.

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