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Re: An internal OpenAI Astra model solved 10 major open math and CS problems

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Post by aroberge » Mon, Aug 03, 2026, 9:25 AM UTC

znjssjnsns wrote: post #21

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #2

I feel like this kind of "result dump" just cheapens mathematics. How about having a little respect for those whose work this builds on, and current mathematicians some of who may have spent years working on these problems. Rather than sitting on these results until they had enough for a "shock and awe" 10-result dump, how about releasing these results individually as they were made/verified, as well as the failures…

It is so incredibly liberating to see the intellectual elite struggling with was already reality for 99% of the rest of us: your understanding is not required, it might in fact be detrimental as it amounts to a handbrake on progress. Understanding never was the goal, results were. We will be getting boatloads of those. What does your understanding get us? You get a fancy house out of it and you might be intellectuall…

> Understanding never was the goal, results were.

Understanding is the goal, both at an individual level and at a societal level. If no one can understand it, no one can teach it and it can't be used to progress.

Re: An internal OpenAI Astra model solved 10 major open math and CS problems

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Post by znjssjnsns » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 5:03 PM UTC

bbg2401 wrote: post #35

znjssjnsns wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is so incredibly liberating to see the intellectual elite struggling with was already reality for 99% of the rest of us: your understanding is not required, it might in fact be detrimental as it amounts to a handbrake on progress. Understanding never was the goal, results were. We will be getting boatloads of those. What does your understanding get us? You get a fancy house out of it and you might be intellectuall…

Even beyond the malady of feeling liberated by others struggling, all you’ve done is express poisonous anti-intellectualism.

The intelligentsia and their various gatekeeping mechanisms are not guardians of “intellectualism”. They are representatives of a class that is seeing its end coming.

Re: An internal OpenAI Astra model solved 10 major open math and CS problems

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Post by znjssjnsns » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 5:04 PM UTC

aroberge wrote: post #51

znjssjnsns wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is so incredibly liberating to see the intellectual elite struggling with was already reality for 99% of the rest of us: your understanding is not required, it might in fact be detrimental as it amounts to a handbrake on progress. Understanding never was the goal, results were. We will be getting boatloads of those. What does your understanding get us? You get a fancy house out of it and you might be intellectuall…

> Understanding never was the goal, results were. Understanding is the goal, both at an individual level and at a societal level. If no one can understand it, no one can teach it and it can't be used to progress.

If you can’t pull it, you can’t move it and thus no useful work could be performed.

Mechanical devices changed that calculus. The same will happen to “intellectual” work. Your understanding is slowing us all down.

Re: An internal OpenAI Astra model solved 10 major open math and CS problems

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Post by znjssjnsns » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 5:05 PM UTC

tentahedronic wrote: post #37

aureate wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I shouldn't be surprised how prevalent this viewpoint is, given the entrenched anti-intellectualism these days in the US and across the world, but it's disturbing to see it so widespread on HN of all places. You are of course free to wield this new technology any way you choose (to the extent its owners and your wallet allow you to, for now at least), and if you can enrich yourself by doing so power to you. I won't a…

Once you have experienced first hand the level of disdain the so called intellectuels have towards the regular joe it is hard to feel any sympathy for them. If I can be replaced with cheap foreign labour you too should just deal with it. You are not entitled to your well paying oil drilling job, you know, you should just move on and take another job or two and some nightly backbreaking gigs here and there if math doe…

Don’t bother, they don’t see it. It’s sickening.

Re: An internal OpenAI Astra model solved 10 major open math and CS problems

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Post by znjssjnsns » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 5:07 PM UTC

aureate wrote: post #28

znjssjnsns wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is so incredibly liberating to see the intellectual elite struggling with was already reality for 99% of the rest of us: your understanding is not required, it might in fact be detrimental as it amounts to a handbrake on progress. Understanding never was the goal, results were. We will be getting boatloads of those. What does your understanding get us? You get a fancy house out of it and you might be intellectuall…

I shouldn't be surprised how prevalent this viewpoint is, given the entrenched anti-intellectualism these days in the US and across the world, but it's disturbing to see it so widespread on HN of all places. You are of course free to wield this new technology any way you choose (to the extent its owners and your wallet allow you to, for now at least), and if you can enrich yourself by doing so power to you. I won't a…

That same scientific community that gave us such wonders as thermonuclear bombs and agent orange? Please. I understand we need science, but we don’t need “intellectualism” and the various self-appointed guardians of whatever that is.