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New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

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Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#51
post #9

Cars have become absurd. We have an older car, and I occasionally look at what we could replace it with, and everything is huge and expensive. Literally, the only car I have been interested in is from BYD and will never be available in my country.

Get a Honda Civic Type R

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#52
post #7
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The height of hoods is at least in part because of pedestrian safety standards. I believe these originated in Europe, but I could be wrong.

Higher hoods are worse, not better, for pedestrians.

to put this in perspective;

a lower hood will strike somewhere lower on the body like the legs, and bounce them off the hood (absorbing some impact)

a higher hood will strike somewhere closer to the head and torso, causing substantially more damage, and cause you to go under and get crushed by the wheels, so at a minimum level damage is much more severe.

and this is for adults. they're basically death sentences for shorter people and children.

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#53

We need a pigouvian tax based on vehicle weight to address the increased deaths due to noise pollution, collisions, and increased wear to roads.

And credits or rebates for vehicles with improved safety features?

I assume the 18-tonne lorries that move most of the world’s goods would be exempt, too, or would you pass that cost on to consumers? Just make everything a bit more expensive for everyone.

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#56
post #48
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only that wasn't illegal.

i can easily see a world where this changes and some genius president will say it's a great idea, and look how great cars are now, they can do everything! live in your cars people!

You'd have to elect the CEO of Ford instead of a real estate guy.

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#57
post #9

Cars have become absurd. We have an older car, and I occasionally look at what we could replace it with, and everything is huge and expensive. Literally, the only car I have been interested in is from BYD and will never be available in my country.

Mitsubishi just discontinued the car line that I drive [0]. The Mirage was great. I can drive from NYC to Boston on ~10 gallon. The only downsides were: No arm wrest, no sunglasses holder, and the media console won't turn on if you leave the car in the hot sun for a while.

I'm hoping to make my next car an electric car but all of the US ones are massive.

[0] - https://www.mitsubishicars.com/mirage-history

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#58
post #9

Cars have become absurd. We have an older car, and I occasionally look at what we could replace it with, and everything is huge and expensive. Literally, the only car I have been interested in is from BYD and will never be available in my country.

Consider something other than a car.

Last year I purchased an electric scooter to complement my car. I ran into mechanical trouble with my car, and it wasn't worth repairing. Instead of replacing it with another car, I have ended up complementing the shortcomings of the electric scooter with an acoustic bicycle. In particular, the bike is better for carrying cargo (I can put things on the bike or even in a trailer instead of just a backpack; I have even moved furniture with my trailer!), and better at dealing with weather (I never have to worry about the battery getting cold or wet, and I also have studded tires for ice).

If I knew I were getting rid of my car, I probably would have gotten an e-bike instead of an e-scooter. Having both has been quite nice though and they complement each other to be better than just having an e-bike. Depending on your cargo carrying / passenger needs, a cargo e-bike or a regular e-bike may be a much cheaper way to replace your car, and may be much more practical than you expect!

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#59
post #53

We need a pigouvian tax based on vehicle weight to address the increased deaths due to noise pollution, collisions, and increased wear to roads.

And credits or rebates for vehicles with improved safety features? I assume the 18-tonne lorries that move most of the world’s goods would be exempt, too, or would you pass that cost on to consumers? Just make everything a bit more expensive for everyone.

In most countries in the EU weight is already a major factor in road tax though some have changed it to emissions.

And yes lorries are billed lower for road tax otherwise they couldn't exist.

Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year

#60
post #37

We need a pigouvian tax based on vehicle weight to address the increased deaths due to noise pollution, collisions, and increased wear to roads.

weight is the easiest measure. wear&tear on road, mpg, damage in accident all scale with weight

> scale with weight

Road damage scales with axle weight to the fourth power (w^4).

So if a 500lbs motorcycle is the unit of damage, a 4,000 lbs sedan does 4,096 units of damage (4096x as much), a 6,000 lbs SUV/pickup does 20,736x, a 14,000 lbs delivery van does 614,000x, and the 80,000 lbs US federal limit 5 axle semi-trailer does 90,800,000x the damage of the motorcycle.

So probably shipping stuff in trucks doesn't cost enough, and SUVs/pickups should cost 5x for road tax what sedans do.

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