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Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#51
One of the nice things about notebooks (handwritten) is the juxtaposition of data, which makes it a joy to browse through and rediscover old thoughts and ideas.

The only note taking app I’ve found to be fun to browse is Google Keep. I love the layout, I love how things are “out of place”

On a side note, I’ve found Muji notebooks to hit that sweet spot where the paper is nice enough to write down something you want to keep and refer back to, and cheap enough that you can waste pages writing down spur of the moment thoughts and things.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#52

I've been trying binders instead of notebooks (especially the mini-binders from folks like Maruman). Binders allow you to easily remove and add pages (and tabs, dividers, etc). This gives you the satisfaction of making something aesthetically pleasing, while also knowing you can move a 'messy' page somewhere else.

Ok. Let me try to spoil you. You are looking for this https://plotterusa.com And here is a review from Fatih Arslan at https://arslan.io/2025/02/24/plotter-notebook-system/

This looks quite expensive for note taking. I have a midori travellers notebook (wow they got expensive now!) and bought myself a stapler that you can rotate (so together like 50€ and I still thought it was quite expensive at the time). I make my own refills out of whatever paper I want.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#53
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my good notes have their origins in thoughts I had while in the shower or while driving or watching a movie or a conversation with someone close to me. Ideas evade me when I'm at my desk in front of my notebook with my awesome pen. This was a huge problem I never noticed that my notebook is never there for me when i need it the most. the second problem, because its my original thought, I'm naturally attached and bias…

I always have my phone with me so I can take a note in that. But when I'm meeting with someone I prefer taking notes in a little notebook I carry, I don't want the other person to feel like I'm...on my phone while speaking to them.

For what it’s worth, I don’t mind as long as you take me with you - tell me what you’re doing and let me see your screen. The problem is not the phone, the problem is people essentially going away mid-conversation.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#54

But why? What's wrong with a tidy notebook?

There's nothing wrong with a tidy notebook.

The point of TFA seems to me: "do what works for you". If keeping your netbook tidy is at the expense of using it, than maybe that means that doesn't work for you. If keeping your netbook tidy pushes you to write more (or doesn't hinder your ability to write on it) then go for it!

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#55
Designing something good for me means going through at least 11 seriously bad approaches before half understanding the problem and having a half-working solution. Trying to use a notebook to aid a learning or research process at all has always meant wasting a lot of time "perfecting" those bad approaches. And ending up with lots of notes that document nothing but a painful struggle to make sense. Looking back through the notes that I did take, in notebooks that I have been gifted over the years, is almost unbearable. The approaches I tried before arriving at the right one were fundamentally wrong, there is no fixing them, and it's painfully obvious when looking back. Aside from the emotional problems I perceive there, it's obvious to me that there is no engineering value in keeping those notes at all.

The current best design always lives in my head, and by the time it exists, the solution and understanding is so clear and detailed that I can't be arsed to write it down.

I do think there is value in taking notes for others, though.

What works a little bit for me is having a lose stack of papers at work. The topmost paper serves to put a coffee mug on top, that will take the coffee stains so the table stays clean. From time to time I actually scribble something on a sheet, and since the sheets are all loose it's very easy to discard any sheet after it's served its (diminishingly small) purpose as a thinking aid.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#57

A nice thing about being left handed is there a few things I can't get precious about. Fountain pens are never going to feature in my life as I'll just smudge everything. Similarly, I'll never end up collecting gaming mice as most of them are not usable for lefties.

Or you could rotate the writing media a little bit and be a touch less precocious.

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#58
I'm kind of on the opposite side of the problem here where all my notes end up as unstructured puddles of thought vomit. in classes people asked a few times for me to show them my notes - they couldn't even figure out what topic the notes were on haha

on a mobile the next best thing was replacing my obsidian's app icon (no endorsement - I don't like obsidian) with the widget that pulls up today's "daily note", whether I want it or not. on pc I have an autohotkey command that does the same for notepad.exe

Re: I started a “dirt notebook”

#60
I did the same 2 years ago. Used to make every notebook about a certain topic/theme and with a certain structure/style. It held my notes back so much... The solution was just to write anything in any way I wanted to in that moment
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