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CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by ck2 »

personally rooting for a gamma-ray burst within 8000 light years (which incidentally would have been traveling since the start of recorded human history)

the entire upper atmosphere would be turned to nitrogen dioxide

even the side of earth not facing the burst would have all life die very quickly because the ozone layer would just be GONE, so now all lethal ultraviolet solar radiation gets in too

solves ALL our problems

unfortunately Congress might survive a few more months in their underground bunkers but they are eventually doomed too

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by OutOfHere »

jeffbee wrote: post #25
OutOfHere wrote: post #3

Look at your CMP (Comprehensive Metabolic Panel) blood test results. It has a test named Carbon Dioxide. This test may have a reference range of 20-32 mmol/L. Subtract your value from the max value -- that's your leftover buffer as the atmospheric CO2 rises, although serious intermittent problems are risked at a level of 31 itself. There is a more specific blood gas test that only a hospital can perform. Fwiw, my val…

Mine was 26 mmol/L yesterday, but the reference level is given as 22-29 by my lab, not 20-32.

In an objective sense, I actually think your noted reference level is the more correct level. I say this because I have experienced problems in the 30-32 range. Granted, we know that each lab's reference range can also vary for other reasons.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by strictnein »

dwroberts wrote: post #21
strictnein wrote: post #11

"Toxic atmosphere" definitely implies something that I don't seem to be finding in the actual paper. We regularly sit in environments that are 2-3x the levels of atmospheric CO2. Also, was this paper AI written? > "There is now a considerable body of published data showing impacts at levels Which is followed by this, with the very AI "For example" that seems to mostly contradict that statement? > "For example, one st…

Not saying the paper isn’t AI, but “for example” is an extremely commonly used phrase that you should not be using as an AI indicator

I get that it's common, but I just spent this week getting some patent docs ready, and was having GPT 5.5 help me with gathering some of the details. I had to remove "for example" dozens of times. So maybe it's just recency bias for me.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by tomaskafka »

astro-lizard wrote: post #5

As a software engineer, what can we do to help with anthropogenic emissions? I want to know how I can use my critical thinking to protect the future for us.

We build a software that enhances overall productivity and automating things, all of this enables us to extract natural resources faster and cheaper, thus putting out more CO2 into atmosphere.

The end state is to have a direct humanless assembly line turning Earth into cheap crap for monkeys to use once and throw away, with ginormous global GDP. Happiness for everyone.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by jeffbee »

OutOfHere wrote: post #46
jeffbee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I understand the literature correctly, there is no strong evidence in favor of collagen as a dietary supplement outside of a dose just before weight lifting, because without the exertion the amino acids in blood simply don't reach tendons and ligaments.

You won't understand until you get much older, your joints start to hurt, and your sleep becomes miserable. When you try collagen then in a sufficient amount, e.g. 15g/day, only then might you understand.

Collagen for osteoarthritis is well-supported by research. I was responding to the statement about connective tissues.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by cogman10 »

boplicity wrote: post #40

Anyone else ever think of somehow building an at-home carbon-removal system, for lower carbon content in the air of your living spaces? I know it's a silly idea, but one that has occurred to me from time to time.

Depends on the approach you want to take. It's possible but IDK if you'd see any sort of health benefits from simply lowering the CO2, you'd probably also want to increase the O2 content.

This is actually a crazy thing that some of the very wealthy are doing in mountain homes. They have O2 tanks setup with their homes so that when they arrive they don't experience altitude sickness.

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/...

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by himata4113 »

Humans are extremely adaptable, for example there's people who work in extreme conditions underwater, what would be considered absolutely unbearable and torture is normal. More information on saturation diving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfiHc_rh4EY

We're already slowly adapting to higher CO2 levels by sitting mostly indoors that have elevated CO2 from 500 to 800 with ranges up to 1500 (taken from my measurements at home).

Claiming that it would be toxic doesn't pass the most basic checks that humanity experience already.

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Post by axus »

astro-lizard wrote: post #5

As a software engineer, what can we do to help with anthropogenic emissions? I want to know how I can use my critical thinking to protect the future for us.

Replace demand for fossil fuels by making cheaper energy sources and electric vehicles.

Politically, block the straight of Hormuz, attack oil-producing infrastructure. Trump and Zelensky and even Iran are doing us all a favor.

Re: CO2 overload, detected in human blood, suggests toxic atmosphere within 50 years

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Post by OutOfHere »

rootusrootus wrote: post #23
jmclnx wrote: post #6

Should not be a surprise since we have know about CO2 Levels and fossil fuels for many decades. The surprise is nothing was real was done. Compare what our generation did with this knowledge against the sacrifices the WW2 generation did. In WW2 many items were rationed in the US for the war effort, including gas . We knew something had to be done to be done in the 70s, but did we sacrifice our lifestyle for the good…

I assume you mean boomers? Might time to stop blaming them, since at this point some of them are great-great-grandparents and the following generations do not seem to have shown any more appetite for changing course.

Biden was all about changing course. The current felon-in-charge, an established boomer, is highly deserving of blame in this regard.
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