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GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by lewiscollard »

andai wrote: post #10

Can someone explain this? I've used custom ROMs back in the day (Cyanogen!) but I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS. I remember Cyanogen ships without Google Play etc., right? (Because if you install Google Services and a bunch of crap from their store (theirs and otherwise) that spies on you, it defeats the purpose of a privacy preserving OS. So I'm assuming Graphene is at least as strict as that? (Well Cyanogen at lea…

> The article mentions that an abuser could put spyware on your phone? Is that a realistic scenario?

Yes, stalkerware is an entire genre of software and it is designed for exactly this purpose.

How “stalkerware” apps are letting abusive partners spy on their victims https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/07/10/134249/stalkerwa...

The Abuser in Your Pocket: How Stalkerware Threatens Women’s Privacy https://safeescape.org/stalkerware-threatens-womens-privacy/

'I thought I'd been microchipped': How abusers spy on partners with 'parental control' apps https://news.sky.com/story/i-thought-id-been-microchipped-ho...

A web search for the term will turn up many more results. Graphene OS's hardening against exploits, compared to the abysmal record of Android vendors, gives much better odds against any of these apps being able to run with elevated privileges, which means Android's sandboxing is effective.

(Happy Graphene OS user of many years here.)

Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by fragmede »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #41

Why care about what Google know about you, in case of domestic abuse ? It's not like Google is going to sell your tracking data to abuser. There are many reasons to get rid of Google altogether, I just don't understand this one.

> It's not like Google is going to sell your tracking data to abuser.

No, that's exactly the fear. With enough disclaimers and third parties involved, a motivated, highly intelligent and rich attacker with the right connections could get that information.

Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by realusername »

LoganDark wrote: post #27
monksy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with that.. additionaly, I'm finding it to be insane that organizations are trying to force you to have a "audited" phone to interact with them. (I.e. events, businesses, etc)

I miss the days when iOS jailbreaks allowed you to completely circumvent basically all DRM because the trust in Apple was so high that you could just assume a device is secure. Contrast that with Android, which has always had invasive attestation mechanisms because of widespread mistrust in OEMs. On iOS, sometimes you had individual apps trying to check for jailbreak but that was it

Apps trying to check for jailbreak is still a thing on iOS and as you would expect, it's jank and can trigger on stock iOS if you are unluky

Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by k4rli »

Cider9986 wrote: post #44
aucisson_masque wrote: post #40

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Only in Google camera, which is usable on grapheneos: You get a live shot feature, it ain't exactly the same tho, look into that. I run pixelos and the amount of stuff I miss from iphone is staggering, the difference between pixelos/grapheneos isn't as big as the difference between iphone/pixel.

Hmm, don't really miss anything from iOS besides tap the top screen to go to top of page. Also Apple Notes is great. No back button on iOS is madness and also the Android rotate screen integration is way better than iOS.

Obsidian might be even greater for notes. Looks beautiful, and it's super immersive on OLED especially. Worth trying for sure.

Tap to scroll might be possible to get also. Haven't felt need for it when it takes a few regular scrolls anyway.

Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by saltamimi »

Namidairo wrote: post #50

On this subject since it's an Australian seller and marketed as "DV safe". Australia has a national test of it's phone alert system in 10 days at 27/07/26, 2PM AEST. (People in North America would know it as Cell Alerts/Presidential Alerts etc.) There have been warnings that hidden phones will almost certainly sound, and their recommendation is to ether power off the phone or put it into airplane mode at least an hou…

You should be able to disable these alerts via the Wireless Emergency Alerts.

Re: GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims

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Post by vhcr »

mmooss wrote: post #29
harvey9 wrote: post #26

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I flashed a pixel using their webpage. They have made it remarkably simple to do.

How do you know what they installed? Also, I understand that GrapheneOS installs are very simple now.

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_Ref...
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