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Yeah, but the hammer doesn’t generate hits based on an algorithm. You hold the hammer, if you hit yourself with it, why do you call it stupid? I bet you don’t call the hammer stupid when someone else hits you with it.
Have you never used tools, been hurt by how you used them, know you are responsible yet take out your pain on the tool, verbally or otherwise? Feels like I'm having a conversation with a robot who hasn't experienced emotions or the very least never used physical tools.
Societal Impacts: Claude's values across models and languages
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Re: Societal Impacts: Claude's values across models and languages
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but the hammer doesn’t generate hits based on an algorithm. You hold the hammer, if you hit yourself with it, why do you call it stupid? I bet you don’t call the hammer stupid when someone else hits you with it.
Have you never used tools, been hurt by how you used them, know you are responsible yet take out your pain on the tool, verbally or otherwise? Feels like I'm having a conversation with a robot who hasn't experienced emotions or the very least never used physical tools.
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This is the second level of the implementation of unintelligence. The first was when they most obviously acritically repeated what they heard, "hearsay machines", "stochastic parrots". Intelligence requires assessment over every provisional output - a continuous cycle of criticisms over intuition. The second is proposing doctrinal biases, again without verification of the content - "hysterical reactive machines".
> Intelligence requires assessment over every provisional output - a continuous cycle of criticisms over intuition It’s not clear what you’re saying. Most humans don’t think this way, would you say they do not possess “intelligence”?
Substantially yes (but for the improper semantic in that 'possess'), we would say "they don't use it" and importantly "they don't train it". Intuition has a part, but it has to be confronted with reality (factual and logical).
Re: Societal Impacts: Claude's values across models and languages
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Have you never used tools, been hurt by how you used them, know you are responsible yet take out your pain on the tool, verbally or otherwise? Feels like I'm having a conversation with a robot who hasn't experienced emotions or the very least never used physical tools.
no, why would I get mad at an abnormally shaped rock
Re: Societal Impacts: Claude's values across models and languages
#55Is it just me or has Claude become kind of judgmental nowadays? I feel like it’s constantly trying to lecture me about things that have no relevance to the conversation at hand. Recently, I was shocked when it ended a chat sessions of its own accord after I used a word it did not like 3 times. It told me something to the effect of “This is the third time I’ve told you not to use that word, I’m ending this conversatio…
I think this is a really interesting difference between Anthropic and Open AI’s models and points to why people seem so split on which model they prefer. GPT seems to be designed more as a tool. If you want your agent to do what you say without questions and without having its own ideas and agendas you’ll likely prefer it. Claude on the other hand feels more like an attempt at creating a digital person. If you want a…
If I pay someone to, say, bounce ideas off of I would expect their continued participation
E.g.
I make craft and was stuck on some shape idea for a thing (non standard). So I figured I'd throw it in Claude and see if it generates an idea I didn't think of
Me: Hey I'm making a thing what's a good shape for it?
Claude: blah blah, shape 1 or shape 2 etc.
Me: Nah don't like any of those
Claude: K cool, good luck
Me:...
It seem like their goal is to train your behavior by forcing you to interact with Claude in the "correct" way