I wonder what will be the next big thing for Zuck after metaverse failure and now AI coming to nothing? Perpetual motion machines?
As long as Meta‘s ad platform keeps printing money they can afford to lose a lot on metaverse and AI.
Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
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Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could certainly not fund Hawaii’s department of education for a single year. And what would you do the next year after selling it and spending the money?
Move on to the next valuable thing he owns? Sell that, rinse and repeat until it's all gone? Doesn't seem difficult..
Maybe we should start with a smaller prototype and test the theory on your or my assets. Still seem like a good idea?
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#53I feel as thought Meta, compared to other tech giants, have a vested interest in saying that AI failed, as they are the only major tech company that has almost unequivocally lost the AI race.
For Meta, it was never really clear why they even were in the AI race in the first place, since pretty much all of their products are B2C and don't really profit from integrating powerful AI models. And for all of their internal needs, they could easily use models created by someone else, which is orders of magnitude cheaper than trying to compete on building your own SOTA model.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#54Can't think of a better poster child of complete corporate waste that benefits no one whose assets should be seized and redistributed to the masses. For the amount that Meta wastes on LLM spending you can pay for things like universal childcare, public community college, and providing free lunch to all public students. If you care about things like money, look up the dollar returns on feeding children during their de…
How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? It's very easy to say that someone/some oeganization's wealth should be confiscated, yet I have yet to see those proposing it actually putting any of their own money where their mouth is.
> How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates?
At least in the society I live all of those are partially paid by me through taxes.
I'm very glad to do it since the existence of kids school lunches, free healthcare (including for the terminally ill), and free universities make my life much better since society as a whole is better off. Even as an immigrant which did not use any of those services, I'm glad to do my part to pay for them, it's just the cost of a good society.
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#55The failure that is llama4 needs to be studied. Meta was kicking ass with llama3.x and then something happened, something really went wrong. what happened between that time and llama4? I think it happened after llama3.1, llama3.2 was nothing to write home about. We need the gossips, maybe a book
PSC happened...
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#56I wonder what will be the next big thing for Zuck after metaverse failure and now AI coming to nothing? Perpetual motion machines?
No need to guess: https://www.reuters.com/business/mark-zuckerberg-directed-me...
CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently dispatched a small team at his company to create a smartphone app similar to Polymarket and Kalshi, the New York Times reported on Tuesday, citing two employees with knowledge of the matter.
The app will probably rely on a video game-like points system instead of users wagering money, though the company has not ruled out betting real money eventually, according to the report.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need the previous training material to customize the weights.
I don’t need the source code to randomly change bytes in the compiled Linux kernel binary either.
Fine-tuning weights is easier than retraining the foundation model from scratch with a different corpus.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
The weights is the source code. You are looking for design docs or something.
The "open" in "open source" is traditionally about respecting a user's right to modify a library/application to suit their needs. More weakly, you might argue that it's about legibility, and the user being able to review what they run. The idea is that you have what you need to make some bespoke change to the "source", or that you can at least analyze the source to understand the hows and whys of its behavior, to mak…
> The idea is that you have what you need to make some bespoke change to the "source", or that you can at least analyze the source to understand the hows and whys of its behavior, to make sure it suits you.
> Do weights provide either of those qualities?
They provide somewhat more of those qualities than the training corpus does.
Not a lot, especially for "understanding", but more.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#59Can't think of a better poster child of complete corporate waste that benefits no one whose assets should be seized and redistributed to the masses. For the amount that Meta wastes on LLM spending you can pay for things like universal childcare, public community college, and providing free lunch to all public students. If you care about things like money, look up the dollar returns on feeding children during their de…
How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? It's very easy to say that someone/some oeganization's wealth should be confiscated, yet I have yet to see those proposing it actually putting any of their own money where their mouth is.
A marginal rate of 52%. Well, technically we pay for the education rather than student loans here, because it's more cost effective without the middlemen (though we do get the occasional think tanks suggesting we change that).
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#60Can't think of a better poster child of complete corporate waste that benefits no one whose assets should be seized and redistributed to the masses. For the amount that Meta wastes on LLM spending you can pay for things like universal childcare, public community college, and providing free lunch to all public students. If you care about things like money, look up the dollar returns on feeding children during their de…
$80 billion written off for the metaverse.
Think about the number of kids that were harmed being fed ads and nonsense content to enable this... this a scandal IMO.