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There are worse ways to spend tax payers money.
Yeah, most europeans are not aware how much do we spend on agriculture, pensions and healthcare.
But not for british farmers anymore.
Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
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Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
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These are different plants, that are situated in the same quarter. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191197175 vs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583767292
I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Dresden itself may be fine, but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white, or even moderately liberal. It's a really brain-damaged region outside of Dresden and Leipzig, and even those cities are not exactly welcoming examples of diversity. Given a historic ch…
> I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers.
Saxony has had a decently-sized or large (by German standards) microelectronics sector for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Saxony
As you'd probably guess, they're mostly situated around Leipzig and Dresden.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
#53EDIT: Apparently it's a different plant. It's not just Infineon - it's called the European Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (ESMC) and is a joint venture by TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, and NXP, with TSMC being the majority (70%) shareholder. I've met one of the engineers designing the piping for that plant. Hardest project to date for him and mainly because TSMC was setting the pace.
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Maybe the Americans reached the quota with the Gulf of America.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Dresden itself may be fine, but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white, or even moderately liberal. It's a really brain-damaged region outside of Dresden and Leipzig, and even those cities are not exactly welcoming examples of diversity. Given a historic ch…
> I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Saxony has had a decently-sized or large (by German standards) microelectronics sector for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Saxony As you'd probably guess, they're mostly situated around Leipzig and Dresden.
I know about the historic connection, but that doesn't change the political/cultural climate in the area.
As a matter of fact, the chairman of Silicon Saxony is concerned as well: https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2024-02/afd-sachsen-silicon-s...
Not to mention federal politicians doing their best to kill the German economy and motivation to work at all, it's quite hard to imagine why any foreign engineer would chose to move to Saxony of all places. Have you been to the countryside in the Bundesland? It's bad. Neonazi and racism all over the place. Literally visible to the casual observer, you don't even have to talk to anyone. T-shirts, stickers, graffiti, stupid notices, ... people there don't hide it.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
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Germany doesn't design high end SoCs or x86 processors so why would they build a fab for them?
Designing a secure platform is possible within the EU[1]. [1]They need to use US EDA tools, And manufacture masks but maybe there are tricks they won't need to trust them - like inspecting critical parts of the masks.
Siemens has bought together a bunch of EDA tool makers, most notably Mentor Graphics. It doesn't really bring the know-how to Germany, but at least some kind of control over it.
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#56Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
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Netherlands actually
Company might be registered in NL but phone number + hosting happens in Germany => maybe only tax reducing?
The company seems to be primarily in Germany (Aachen), with headquarters/holding company just across the border in The Netherlands (10km away in Lemiers, right on the border). That region is pretty economically integrated and I believe setups like this are fairly common to make use of the "business climate" of The Netherlands. Think taxes but also less bureaucracy. It looks like at least one of the founders also studied in Maastricht.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are different plants, that are situated in the same quarter. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191197175 vs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583767292
You're right, honest mistake. I checked this several times, thinking "surely there aren't two chip plants built at the same time, in roughly the same location with the same company involved?". Apparently there are.
There are actually more than these two. There is also GlobalFoundries also on the same street, and also Bosch, although I am not sure, whether the latter is really separate from the ESMC joint venture.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are different plants, that are situated in the same quarter. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191197175 vs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583767292
I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Dresden itself may be fine, but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white, or even moderately liberal. It's a really brain-damaged region outside of Dresden and Leipzig, and even those cities are not exactly welcoming examples of diversity. Given a historic ch…
> but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white
Which is of course exaggerated as usually and if you are referring to the AFD, my take is that the focus on the eastern part is just cope by the western part, they are rising the same in the western part, the eastern is just ahead of the curve. This is very much a problem of the complete country. If the administration(s) manage to bring back the economy, than the AFD will also go away, if they don't then this will be the far bigger issue for any industry rather than the public perception of the workers.
> I think odds are eastern Germany will shoot itself in the foot epically with this.
How are they shooting themself in the foot, by investing into semiconductors? Even if it eventually fails, how would this be worse, then not having done anything? Also the odds of this failing (like the one in Magdeburg) are rather small. This is the news that the construction is finished, and it is a new module in an already existing factory of an already existing company in exactly this place. I don't believe the company is going to axe it, AFTER the factory is built and the costs were spent. This doesn't make any sense.
Re: Germany’s Infineon opens major chip plant as EU seeks tech autonomy
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There are worse ways to spend tax payers money.
Let's see the state of this project in 5 years. Experience tends to show European projects dragging forever and then suddenly closing whilst funds mysteriously move into semi public companies with boards full to the brim with retired political figures
You are aware, that this is the report of the factory being completed right?