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Redeploying Fable 5

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Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#51

>Our testing confirmed that many less capable models—including Claude Opus 4.8, GPT-5.5, and Kimi K2.7—could identify the same vulnerabilities as Fable 5 did in the report. That is nice advertising for Kimi, huh?

In a way, but note that the government actors here have Opinions on the Chinese having capable models.

Pointing out that every day US frontrunner models are banned is another day of china catching up might have been what swayed the decision to unblock.

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#52

It’s nice to have access again, but I’m hesitant to include it in my workflow now. In fact I’d rather not use American models at all if I could. I have the sense that this limited usage model will persist, Opus at its current token price will gradually be phased out, and eventually the cost of these models will be unsustainable and impractical. I’d rather not play this game anymore and seek out more reliable provider…

> more interested in harnesses. Claude Code is not the best on the market What is the best harness right now?

I’m with jpeeler here and I don’t think there’s a single optimum harness. Pi is really nice in that it allows you to hone in on what suits your needs, though. Some people won’t want to manage their harness though, so for them it’s probably not ideal.

All I can say with certainty is that Claude Code isn’t a panacea, and it’s quite buggy and clunky. I think this is evident just from regular usage, but becomes even clearer when you use harnesses that get in the way less and demonstrate better implementations across the board. Sometimes I think Claude Code feels like software that happened while other harnesses feel like they were engineered intentionally.

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#53

It's 14:35 here in Eastern Europe and Fable is still not accessible for me, neither on the web UI nor inside Claude Code. Any exact times when we can expect it? The beginning of workday Pacific time, maybe?

5 more hours passed, and still not available for me. Is it just select users, or does es nobody have access?

At exactly 22:50 EEST (19:50 UTC) I got the notification email from Anthropic that the "Fable 5 was disabled" incident has been resolved. Sure enough, after restarting Claude Code, I could use it straight away.

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#54
post #24

This post has been marked as a dupe, but it provides a lot more details than the other announcements of Fable's re-enablement provide: > The export control directive on June 12 came after the government became aware of a report in which Amazon researchers had found a method of bypassing Fable 5’s safeguards: prompting it so that it identified a number of software vulnerabilities. In one case, the model produced code…

The administration decision making is just wacky.

Tautological

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

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post #10
post #9

"For Pro, Max, Team, and select Enterprise plans, Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits." The party will be short-lived.

Huge bummer. So what's the point of an anthropic subscription? Or is this just the end of subscriptions? Looking forward to gpt-5.6 (assuming we can still use our subscriptions there).

The VC money ran out about 6 weeks ago.

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#56
post #24

This post has been marked as a dupe, but it provides a lot more details than the other announcements of Fable's re-enablement provide: > The export control directive on June 12 came after the government became aware of a report in which Amazon researchers had found a method of bypassing Fable 5’s safeguards: prompting it so that it identified a number of software vulnerabilities. In one case, the model produced code…

> 3) The administration decision making is just wacky. In a normal administration they'd have actual policy documents you could look at to understand under what circumstances they think models have a problem. With this they just seem to make it up as they go, and the tools they use make no sense at all. If it is dangerous for cyber security reasons why would export controls make sense to use?

LLMs only really took off almost entirely under this administration. No one knows quite how to regulate these things. It's not surprising that they would flail a bit. It seems to have been DoD people who did the flailing here, and apart from Hegseth, there might have been others who did the overreacting, possibly before him.

Re: Redeploying Fable 5

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2) Anthropic - in particular Dario - really needs to learn government relations better. Most of the problems Anthropic has had with the government seem to stem from Dario's attitude rather than actual facts. (Eg, the DoD debacle seems to have ended up with OpenAI signing almost the same contract Anthropic already had, just worded differently) This may be in Anthropic's benefit. Autonomous killer drones will be wide…

There is no money nor reputational gain to be had by saying "see, we told you so". All that matters is the killer drones use someone else's AI first.

It may matter when recruiting though
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