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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by codingdave »

altairprime wrote: post #26

It is extremely disappointing to see Reclaim’s reporting whiff so badly on this. Yeah, they got the gist of the outrage, but they missed the real grift underneath. They slipped a massive loophole under the radar here and Reclaim misses it entirely: Google promised to delete the footage , but not the data derived from the footage. To use 23andme as an analogy, the company tended to dispose of old genetic sample kits a…

> This is a company whose business runs on gathering and monetizing personal data

Seems like they covered your points just fine. They just did it succinctly and trusted the reader to understand the broader implications.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by nerdsniper »

Also worth noting this could allow Google to know who is using whom's devices. E.g. if I let my sister use my device, then Google would know it's her hand.

Would it deny her hand's reCAPTCHA because it doesn't match my biometrics? Or would it allow her and just make a record in the google database that she was using my phone at 8:42PM ?

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by tosti »

nerdsniper wrote: post #7
Terr_ wrote: post #4

Imagine getting your hand wrongly blacklisted as a fake, and then someday down the road you make a wrong gesture during an online interview and now your real-name is also on the suspicion list.

Imagine you don’t have a hand.

New startup idea: Captcha-proof mock hands that wave with remote control http json api. You could sell a small diorama box with camera and everything as an upgrade.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by xethos »

drexlspivey wrote: post #38
intended wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if anyone has thought about what happens if and when Google (or others) gets bought out. No firm lasts forever.

It is not possible to buy a 4 trillion public company

I'm struggling not to be sarcastic here, as I'm not quite stoked about Canadian Tire owning most of what's left of Hudson's Bay Company. It's pretty undeniable proof that age and revenue will not make a company immortal or invulnerable though.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by piva00 »

drexlspivey wrote: post #38
intended wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if anyone has thought about what happens if and when Google (or others) gets bought out. No firm lasts forever.

It is not possible to buy a 4 trillion public company

AOL used to be a US$ 200B public company, it was acquired by 4.4B.

Sun, Lucent, Yahoo all had massive valuations at their peak but eventually dwindled and got acquired.

It's always possible for a massively valued company to stumble, fall, and become a husk of what it once was. I don't think Google/Alphabet is immune to this even though their absurd cash cow from ads make it very unlikely at this exact moment.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by thisislife2 »

A few days back, Google reCaptcha suddenly showed me a QR code and asked me to scan it with my mobile to "verify" I was human. I was taken aback, and at first thought my system / browser had some malware that was messing with the Captcha ...

(Apparently, this started appearing from last month - https://cybernews.com/privacy/google-qr-code-recaptcha-requi... ).

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by _V_ »

gib444 wrote: post #47
_V_ wrote: post #28

Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…

Companies do and will simply label customers who repeatedly "protest" in such a manner as "vexatious" and use that as a justification to deny service. Utilities will probably be last due to regulations around providing utilities but other important companies will do it.

Then I save some money and give them to a different company :)

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by _V_ »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #44
_V_ wrote: post #28

Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…

Yeah I’ve already warned my discord friends that the moment I have to show my ID I’m out of there without a goodbye. It sucks, but I just can’t compromise further. Personal ID’s are an absolute red line.

Yeah, for some reason I ran into that issue, too. I'm not giving my governmental ID to some random corporation. If that means I can't use their services, then so be it.

Someone always has to be the first to say "no thanks" to their bs.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by uproarchat »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #44
_V_ wrote: post #28

Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…

Yeah I’ve already warned my discord friends that the moment I have to show my ID I’m out of there without a goodbye. It sucks, but I just can’t compromise further. Personal ID’s are an absolute red line.

Ahem, plenty of Discord alternatives out there ;) Nothing wrong with making a backup or bridge!

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by Forgeties79 »

uproarchat wrote: post #59
Forgeties79 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I’ve already warned my discord friends that the moment I have to show my ID I’m out of there without a goodbye. It sucks, but I just can’t compromise further. Personal ID’s are an absolute red line.

Ahem, plenty of Discord alternatives out there ;) Nothing wrong with making a backup or bridge!

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