Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless you believe that Japanese version makes trees mutate, it's still pollarding.
The japanese version depends on propogating a specific mutated variant.
Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
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Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
#52Isn't this just Pollarding and/or Coppicing, which have been practiced for at least 2000 years in Europe (and probably many other cultures as well), with a healthy dose of orientalism added on top?
Are coppicing and pollarding used at all to produce timber? I had the impression that it was done only to make firewood, and was cut repeatedly without letting it grow like described in the article.
Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
#53Im confused.. wouldnt this be suspect to a weight limit - as the full stem would weigh on the carrying "tree" - especially during wind and storms?
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#54https://www.agroforesterie.fr/la-trogne-arbre-paysan-aux-mil...
Other countries do it too :
Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
#55It's not limited to Japan. The French call them 'trognes' https://www.agroforesterie.fr/la-trogne-arbre-paysan-aux-mil... Other countries do it too : https://trognes.fr/trognes/trognes-a-travers-le-monde/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollarding
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Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
>with a healthy dose of orientalism added on top Also known as 'Thing, Japan'. HN eats up articles like this every single week. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thing-japan
If it makes you feel any better, the reverse holds as well. Grass is greener mentality exists everywhere.
In LA those are either French or Italian women, selfishly hoarding all the good skin cream. I then wondered who the French and Italian women think are the beauty-secret-holders...
Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
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Few trees called "cedar" are in the Cedrus genus. To be fair many of these were called a type of "cedar" before the Cedrus genus was even coined. Cedar really just means "a really good tree" (for woodworking)
TIL that PNW Western Red Cedars are not in fact, Cedar trees!
In fact, most trees called cedars are NOT Cedrus.
Re: Daisugi, the Japanese technique of growing trees out of other trees (2020)
#58It's cute because it's trees. Somehow I keep thinking Mad Max where women were kept just to produce baby and milk, or Alien where alien "subtree" sprouted from human "tree". I guess nature/human is cruel?
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please link a photo of a coppice/pollard in Europe that's as straight as this, along with the location where I can see it. If you do, I have got a great new travel destination. If you don't then everyone else (and hopefully you too) will understand why people think this is special enough to link beyond the fact that it happens to be in Japan.
The parent commenter rightfully criticizes these kinds of sentences: > Necessity being the mother of invention, this led to the creation of an ingenious solution: daisugi, the growing of additional trees, in effect, out of existing trees — creating, in other words, a kind of giant bonsai. It tries to sell something as completely unique. It’s not. For example this sentence should emphasize what’s unique with daisugi,…
Grafting is joining cuttings from one tree to a rootstock of another. That is not what's going on here at all, it's limited to a single tree.
Something like "selective pollarding", maybe, but that's very far from being a common English word. And as I said, most pollarding I have seen is nowhere as straight and tall as this.
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This article is just a rehash or summary. Check out one of the sources it links to (since the other is broken) for details on the technique: https://mymodernmet.com/kitayama-cedar-daisugi/ The strength & flexibility I would guess are attributable to the lack of knots and the straightness of the grain. One thing both writers keep doing that's annoying is calling it a cedar. The tree is cryptomeria japonica , known as…
Few trees called "cedar" are in the Cedrus genus. To be fair many of these were called a type of "cedar" before the Cedrus genus was even coined. Cedar really just means "a really good tree" (for woodworking)