Maybe we can start calling the Streisand effect the Careless People effect as a modern update and way to keep Zuckerino annoyed
Nice try, Barbra.
'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence
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#52Seems like exactly what they'd do if the claims weren't true, am I right?
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#53So she is trying to make money by selling a book about how Facebook is bad, meaning how the company only cares about profit and nothing else. I can already tell it has to be one of the most boring books ever written, because there is nothing new there. It is basically like writing a book that says: the sky is blue and water is wet.
I haven’t read it yet, but I don’t think the value of a book is defined on weather the main claim is already known. Knowing that something is good or bad doesn’t undermine the value of a book about it. You can get value by having an additional perspective, understanding the strategy, modus operandi, or the mechanics behind it.
For example, I’m currently reading 'Why We Sleep'. Obviously we all know that sleep is good for health, but reading the book gave me better ways to understand how good it is, analyze my own sleep quality and what I can do to improve it, and very importnat: show me how I can use ti to leverage other parts of life, like learning or emotional regulation. It’s not just “sleep 8 hours a day.”
So I imagine something similar might happen with her book, even if you already know some companies use questionable tactics, it can still be useful to understand those tactics, how companies avoid getting caught, how similar patterns might appear elsewhere, etc. It can also make you reflect on which limits are acceptable or unacceptable, depending on your political views.
Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> he also takes points off of Wynn-Williams' workplace evaluation for being "unresponsive" over a period when she was in a near-death coma To be fair, this happens all over the scale. Back when I was an EMT making not much more than minimum wage, I had to call out of a shift (and eventually get taken to the ER by my partner for what turned out to be large - 13mm - kidney stone). And when that hospital didn't have ava…
> Were you able to find coverage? Never fucking do this. It's the manager's job. Like it's their actual job . If you just want to last-minute swap a shift for fun? Sure. If you're in the hospital or otherwise have an actual crisis to deal with? Nope. [Incidentally: also not your goddamn job if it's actual policy-granted leave planned in advance , "oh you can have those days next month, just find coverage" NOPE that's…
100%. Unfortunately, and especially around here, the quickest way to a decent union fire position is through the volunteer system, or private EMS meatgrinder. Doubly so in the PNW - in other parts of the country you can barely throw a rock at a strip mall without hitting a paramedic school, but Central/Western Washington effectively has only two programs - Tacoma CC and Central Wash U. There was a Vancouver program that got effectively subsumed by AMR or something like that, and there's a Seattle program at Harborview - but you have to already be a Seattle or King County FD employee and sponsored to get into it - as a result TCC's program had an informal requirement to have 1,000+ patient contacts as an EMT, and the only time efficient way to get that is private EMS.
So private EMS supervisors know they have a steady supply of younger kids who'll eat shit for a few years to get their patient contacts. I did it later in life, and had a full time IT job, and it was always a source of consternation from this supervisor that he couldn't pull his usual shit, threatening to (try to) "blacklist" employees, or pull borderline illegal scheduling shenanigans.
> so they are very bad at managing schedules (that's the "stupid" part, this is not rocket science)
Oh, you'd think that. But most private EMS shift bidding is glorified "write your name on a whiteboard"/GCal type stuff that a dispatcher or supervisor then tries to lay out. I'll admit that it's a thankless job at best - do an optimal layout and no-one appreciates it, but anything suboptimal and there's accusations of favoritism, etc. And then, at certain places, like this one, there -is- -actual- favoritism, where dispatchers will "joke" about giving you a crappy shift or partner if you upset or argue with them, or will double-book you and then complain you didn't notice, or, if not enough people would sign up for a certain day, would "phantom" sign you up. Get a call at 7.30am - "Where you at?" "Home, sleeping" "You're on duty today" "I didn't sign up." "Says here you did". Leading to people taking photos of the shift sign up sheets right before the end of bidding...
Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence
#55So she is trying to make money by selling a book about how Facebook is bad, meaning how the company only cares about profit and nothing else. I can already tell it has to be one of the most boring books ever written, because there is nothing new there. It is basically like writing a book that says: the sky is blue and water is wet.
New York Times best seller, well received by critics, good reviews on Goodreads and Audible, hundreds of thousands of copies sold. Reductionism can often lead to naive presuppositions.
Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence
#56I wish sites would link to the docket to provide a primary source. Here’s the complaint: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.47...
I wondered what she was calling "duress". Meta made executing this Severance Agreement a condition to Ms. Wynn-Williams’s ability to submit for reimbursement over $300,000 in pre-approved business expenses she had paid using her personal funds, including luxury hotel rooms and other travel expenses for Mr. Zuckerberg and fellow Meta executives. Yeah, that's duress in my book.
It's also a really good reminder that you shouldn't be fronting money to your employer. They want you to travel? Then the pig fuckers can pony up the airfare/hotel/food money up front.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
He throws huge temper tantrums and pouts so much when he loses at board games while traveling on the facebook private jet so all his staff conspires to let him win. I read the book. Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. There is a lot of corporate pri…
> Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. Good lord the Wikipedia article about her has more absolutely dogshit behavor [1]: > According to an April 21, 2022, report by The Wall Street Journal, Sandberg was part of a coordinated campaign to prevent the…
All members of the Epstein class.
Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> he also takes points off of Wynn-Williams' workplace evaluation for being "unresponsive" over a period when she was in a near-death coma To be fair, this happens all over the scale. Back when I was an EMT making not much more than minimum wage, I had to call out of a shift (and eventually get taken to the ER by my partner for what turned out to be large - 13mm - kidney stone). And when that hospital didn't have ava…
> Were you able to find coverage? Never fucking do this. It's the manager's job. Like it's their actual job . If you just want to last-minute swap a shift for fun? Sure. If you're in the hospital or otherwise have an actual crisis to deal with? Nope. [Incidentally: also not your goddamn job if it's actual policy-granted leave planned in advance , "oh you can have those days next month, just find coverage" NOPE that's…
Unfortunately if your manager thinks something is your problem, it becomes your problem.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Ms. Wynn-Williams’s colleagues were frustrated that they could hear her baby in the background on late night work calls. As a proposed “solution,” Ms. Sandberg told Ms. Wynn-Williams that she should “[b]e smart and hire a Filipina nanny” because they are “English speaking, [have a] sunny disposition, and [are] service oriented.” This is a strange thing to emphasize, but I guess expected for law-trash. What do you t…
> What do you think that pay is for? Stop being weird. Not for me to cater to the needs of some adult-babies who don't want to hear my actual baby on a " late night work call". Zero of the dollars are for that.
If it, for whatever reason, caused issues for the productivity and focus of the other people on-call, then it needs to be addressed.
This is minutia, that is only being brought up because this is law-trash.
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#60>Sarah Wynn-Williams served as director of global public policy at Facebook, now operating under parent company Meta Platforms Inc., from 2011 until her firing in 2017. “Careless People” alleges cruel and otherwise disturbing behavior by CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other executives. I would have liked to learn about specific allegations of "cruel and otherwise disturbing" from the article, instead of leaving this complet…
Fortune can't repeat those allegations for fear of being sued by Facebook or worse: loosing access to their ad and user tracking network.
> loosing access to their ad and user tracking network.
That sort of makes sense. I would question what the value of meta's "reputation" is to begin with, especially in the context of fortune's "journalism".