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Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by shevy-java »

witx wrote: post #19

Unforteuately I think it's moot to post this on hacker news. The majority of people here drink deep from the AI pool and just don't care. Besides many of the companies on the list are suspext numero uno for the state of open source

I don't drink the AI slop and I also don't see where you derive to this conclusion. Most of the comments are very much against the AI slop.

> Besides many of the companies on the list are suspext numero uno for the state of open source

On this I agree. This seems indeed just promo advertising to white-wash these companies. They don't really care about ethics in open source.

Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by eastbound »

fithisux wrote: post #37

Corporates terrorized people with the financial crisis they created and the unemployment weapon. They terrorized them to abandon their free time. They terrorized them to find easy solutions in the workplace instead of coming up with solutions that require technical expertise and deep thinking. They terrorized people to not conform to standards, or create standards but instead patch around lack of standardization. The…

The French famously got the Congés Payés (paid holidays) in 1936 after the big strike. You have great pictures of entire trains of Parisians going to the beach in Deauville by droves.

Meanwhile the Germans were working overnight to manufacture bombs. That, alone, is already a sufficient explanation on why we got invaded and lost our country to one of the evilest powers of Earth. France had to be rescued by the Russian, the English and the Americans after losing millions of inhabitants. Because we literally took too much holidays.

The one who works the most reaps the entire benefits. And it’s clearly not good to ask for less work all the time. Today France is peanuts on the international market, we are second at everything. Who heard of DailyMotion, which was once as big as Youtube, or Mistral, which was supposed to be our OpenAI?

Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by oersted »

tpoacher wrote: post #54

Nice name, "Akrites". Probably not as impressive to a non-Greek, but to a Greek person it creates very strong imagery.

To save others a search:

> The akritai (singular akrites) is a term used in the Byzantine Empire in the 9th–11th centuries to denote the frontier soldiers guarding the Empire's eastern border, facing the Muslim states of the Middle East. (Wikipedia)

Akron means edge or border, so "frontiersman" or "those of the border".

EDIT: Commenters seem upset about the Muslim part, I didn’t mean to imply anything, you cannot just copy-paste contemporary disputes and prejudices a thousand years ago. In the historical context it’s just like most borders between different civilizations. The point is that they were a collective organization getting together to defend their land.

Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by throwaw12 »

oersted wrote: post #55
tpoacher wrote: post #54

Nice name, "Akrites". Probably not as impressive to a non-Greek, but to a Greek person it creates very strong imagery.

To save others a search: > The akritai (singular akrites) is a term used in the Byzantine Empire in the 9th–11th centuries to denote the frontier soldiers guarding the Empire's eastern border, facing the Muslim states of the Middle East. (Wikipedia) Akron means edge or border, so "frontiersman" or "those of the border". EDIT: Commenters seem upset about the Muslim part, I didn’t mean to imply anything, you cannot jus…

> facing the Muslim states of the Middle East.

if true, then choosing this name was a very bad decision.

Imagine how Muslims would feel, demonizing them even more, before they were terrorists, now they are attacking open source and hence some organizations need akrites to defend from them.

I really wish such organizations which try to demonize anyone, to fail miserably

Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by pydry »

cryo32 wrote: post #29

No we won’t. We’ll make grand statements about it, leave it for commercial entities to corrupt it, then complain loudly about the state of it when we really did nothing about it. I expect we’ve got a future of “undo forks” as I’ve called them which is rolling back to pre-insanity times and rethinking again. That’s only something people unencumbered by commercial requirements can do.

Defeatism is easy

Re: We all depend on open source. We will defend it together

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Post by jackdoe »

tetris11 wrote: post #50
eastbound wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Commercial entities are 95% of useful open-source (Linux, Postgres and similar — excluding leftstr-type of utilities).

Commercial entities latch onto useful open-source because it is a successful product they simply cannot compete with.

why would they compete with it when its open?
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