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Re: The operating cost starts after the demo

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If it wasn't worth writing for the author, it won't be worth reading for you and I. If you have a point to make, putting it into words is part of how you structure and understand it yourself. I would much rather read a point imperfectly made by a person, than a bunch of algo-noise around the fuzzy outline of a point that nobody has thought through. If you value your finite human time and attention you have to somehow…

> slop sniff test An unexpected challenge being that our sense of smell requires continual readjustment: Heavy use of em-dashes was formerly a "tell", but the AI-masters retrained them, and now they do the opposite. Indeed, there's a general scarcity of any punctuation other than the period.

It's continually evolving, but a gold standard tell is being very punchy and listy without any semantic content whatsoever. I don't think you can really fix that without heavier human involvement, which undercuts a lot of the slop use-cases. You have to know what you want to say, or the robot will just spin its wheels - and having something to say and a way to say it is kind of the part that requires the most work, so that's not attractive if you're running a bot farm.

Re: The operating cost starts after the demo

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There's a lot that could be said against agentic programming, but I don't understand how it wipes away anyway about CS - everything about this is a massive tower built on top of (and effectively utilizing) everything that we've learned about CS fundamentals and engineering over these decades.

>but I don't understand how it wipes away anyway about CS Because transformers is a mathematician's take on programming. Not your CS graduate.

I'm not sure what you mean. I can't find a single prominent contributor to transformers who doesn't have a CS background. The closest I found is Jared Kaplan (math and theoretical physics), who came and contributed with mathematical analysis after the architecture was already well-defined.

Re: The operating cost starts after the demo

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Your comment would've been more valuable if you actually included at least one actual example of evidence.

The most obvious ones to me are the sentences that aren't actually sentences but just lists of stuff (and sometimes not even proper sentences). It starts at the third sentence and there's one in the majority of paragraphs. LLMs love writing like this but humans don't do this. "Support tickets, lead follow-ups, reports, internal updates, research, data entry, task assignment, status checks." "Real work has missing dat…

Thanks for the examples. I actually kinda like it, as almost being a form of spoken word poetry; but yes, these lists do seem unusual on a second read-through.
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