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Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by skeledrew »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #19
conartist6 wrote: post #3

The content of the post deemed by ICE to warrant ~~federal prosecution~~ crime-boss-style intimidation: > BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted! If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )

I don’t read the Minnesota Star and hadn’t seen any of this, so, if anything the Feds doxxed their own by bringing it to my attention.

Streisand!

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by lokar »

reactordev wrote: post #11
mingus88 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what are the consequences if they do it anyway?

Whose gonna call the cops on the cops?

Different cops. We had sheriff’s deputies out for some other issue, my impression was they took the law pretty seriously. They may not arrest them on the spot, but I think they would get ID and tell them to leave, and later file a report.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by skeledrew »

dgellow wrote: post #28
graemep wrote: post #24

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The UK case involved him being "lead away" by police and "detained" when he returned and spoke so not really an arrest for holding up a blank piece of paper. Not good by any means, but not quite "for holding up a blank piece of paper". The other UK case was about a threat of arrest if he wrote on the paper - that is under the law that bans protests in Parliament Square. Again, not good, but not for holding up a blank…

I thought detainment was a lighter kind of arrest. Seems that I’m wrong and they are distinct concepts (I’m not too familiar with the English terminology here, my bad)

When someone is detained, they're just a person of interest wanted for questioning. When they're arrested, it's because they've actually been charged for something.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by vitally3643 »

Steve16384 wrote: post #27
delichon wrote: post #21

This kind of intimidation sucks and I'd like to see individual officers who indulge in it lose their qualified immunity and be prosecuted for it. But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this, and so such charges can be dismissed by courts that follow the law, even if they don't apply consequences to the offending officials. Compare that to the UK where more than 12k peo…

Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?

Saying what you want about the government without fear of reprecussion or intimidation or consequence from the government is literally in the constitution. Very specifically for this situation.

This isn't a "freespeach" argument, this is the actual text of the actual constitution. This is the actual literal reason that line is included in the bill of rights. It is explicit constitutional law that the government cannot punish you for criticizing the government.

There are a ton of exceptions to our right to free speech, but this is not one.

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Post by nojvek »

lebuffon wrote: post #15
mingus88 wrote: post #4

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And what are the consequences if they do it anyway?

That, in my opinion, is the question of the era for the USA. We were taught that the rule of law prevailed and there are "checks and balances" but it seems like there is no prescibed way to enforce the rules inside the system.

USA is trending towards right is might.

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Post by exe34 »

noboostforyou wrote: post #47
LightHugger wrote: post #43

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"assaulting a cop with your car" as if she wasn't trying to simply leave the area and had her tires turned completely away from the cop who proceeds to shoot her in the head. > innocent people I must have missed the trial where she was found guilty, when did that happen? Oh wait... Either way, you're celebrating the extra-judicial execution of a citizen and think that's normal behavior. You sound like the violent per…

> who proceeds to shoot her in the head.

From the side.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by [deleted] »

inglor_cz wrote: post #46
Steve16384 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?

Most countries in the West have higher threshold to arrest someone over social media posts. Some actually much, much higher. 12K is just a ridiculous number and indicates that the UK indeed has a free speech problem. I don't think that in my country there were more like ~ 20 actual arrests over the same problem during the same period. Even if you agree with prosecuting people for speech, why exactly would you arrest…

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Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by 35fbe7d3d5b9 »

jmclnx wrote: post #18
mingus88 wrote: post #4

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And what are the consequences if they do it anyway?

These days, I would guess a "tsk-tsk" is said to them. The States need to grow a pair and start arresting these agents who break the law.

“Grow a pair” presumes the state isn’t actively achieving its goals through these actions.

It’s a big club, and we ain’t in it.

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