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GTA 6 will cost $80

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Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by dmos62 »

mrmattyboy wrote: post #30

Some backstory - I like gaming quite a bit - but more of a personal archivalist. I have basically all games I've ever played on physical media and try to keep someway to play them offline - just jailbroke my 360 to be able to play games from HDD incase the DVD drive broke. Anyway... I saw the no DVD and was initially devastated. I'm in two minds - I saw one post that basically said "it won't contain a DVD at launch".…

Pirating should solve your problems pretty directly. That's basically what it is: restoring copyability of a piece of media.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by dguest »

quentindanjou wrote: post #9
redbackthomson wrote: post #6

> Rockstar said physical copies of the game will contain a code for a digital download for the game inside a box, rather than a disc. So what's the point of that? Why waste all that money and energy shipping "physical copies" when it could just be an email

So it has a presence in stores.

Also so that it can make the retailer money. The studio might not want to piss off the retailer, which they would do by pulling the physical copy (or selling it at the OEM price directly). There are cases where retailers will de-list some products in retaliation.

What's interesting to me is that game studios have less to loose here than other OEMs. With equipment like shoes, outdoor gear, or cars, having the physical product out in stores does a lot to sell it: you have to try on shoes, driving a car builds attachment, it's also nice to check the build quality of your tent or whatever.

With games, you generally just have to play it / read the reviews, and you can trial it directly at home in a lot of cases.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by maxwellito »

VonGuard wrote: post #37
maxwellito wrote: post #23

Excuse my silly question, but what's the point of pre-buying a game, if it will only exists as a downloadable copy. I get you want to gift it for xmas, but for the rest of players? The point of pre-sale is to make sure you will get one when it comes out?

I personally agree that pre-buying is silly in today's world of digital distribution. But I will point out that most pre-sales now come with a digital item or two or five that's exclusive to pre-orders. Additionally, if you pre-order, you can sometimes download the game a day or so ahead of time, and then have it "unlock" when it's released, allowing you to play at minute 1. I'd wager GTA VI is well over 100 GBs, so…

That's right. I forgot about the ability to pre-download the game before the official release, which might help the servers. That also remove the joke "Patch day 1 (of the size of the game)" which I always found ridiculous but became a standard practice.

Having the game of that size is the only excuse I accept for not releasing a physical version, but because no blu-ray will handle it, it starts darker days for game preservation. I love the fact that I will be able to undust my old PS4 in a couple of years and play GTA V without relying on the PlayStation Store. But we knew these days were counted.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by quentindanjou »

varispeed wrote: post #14
quentindanjou wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it has a presence in stores.

Sounds shit. Taking space for products that actually need space.

It is seen constantly with a wide variety of products: the presence and visibility make the sale. You even have boxes that are much larger so that they get more visibility on shelves.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by gonzalohm »

Stitch4223 wrote: post #19
redbackthomson wrote: post #6

> Rockstar said physical copies of the game will contain a code for a digital download for the game inside a box, rather than a disc. So what's the point of that? Why waste all that money and energy shipping "physical copies" when it could just be an email

No disks large enough probably (100 gig for PS5). And still if they manage to squeeze some form of the game on it, a large day one patch would render it obsolete. A nice box with artwork like a map and other goodies is still great. I always found those maps useful and aesthetically pleasing. Having a playable version of a game physically is great and I’d buy a version with some physical storage medium if it ever hits…

World of Warcraft shipped with 6 DVDs or something like that. Installing it was a pain in the ass but there is something nice about that whole ritual

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by Retr0id »

mrmattyboy wrote: post #30

Some backstory - I like gaming quite a bit - but more of a personal archivalist. I have basically all games I've ever played on physical media and try to keep someway to play them offline - just jailbroke my 360 to be able to play games from HDD incase the DVD drive broke. Anyway... I saw the no DVD and was initially devastated. I'm in two minds - I saw one post that basically said "it won't contain a DVD at launch".…

The highest capacity blurays available are 128GB and there's a good chance the game is larger than that, so it'd need to be a multi-disc installer.

I used to think physical media was great, but optical discs do have a finite shelf life. DRM-free is the important part, so you can make your own backups (like you're doing with your 360).

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by mrmattyboy »

Arainach wrote: post #44
mrmattyboy wrote: post #30

Some backstory - I like gaming quite a bit - but more of a personal archivalist. I have basically all games I've ever played on physical media and try to keep someway to play them offline - just jailbroke my 360 to be able to play games from HDD incase the DVD drive broke. Anyway... I saw the no DVD and was initially devastated. I'm in two minds - I saw one post that basically said "it won't contain a DVD at launch".…

Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more. And to answer your question, most consumers don't care. The convenience of being able to buy with a few clicks and download immediately without going to a store or waiting for the mail is far more beneficial to most people than being able to locally archive or replay in 20 years.

> Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more.

This is a totally fair point and literally something I haven't even considered.

> most consumers don't care

I know.. I know.. I mostly commented because the linked article _does_ speak about it and that it implied people weren't happy (mostly for re-sell not for archival purposes). But, yes, I get that

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by newtonianrules »

Topfi wrote: post #33
nharada wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah if it has the amount of content people are expecting I'd say it'll be well worth 80 bucks

Especially considering the price of e.g. Mario Kart World.

What a disappointment that was. The open world aspect was neat but the whole game could have been an indie production tech wise.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by stuxnet79 »

crims0n wrote: post #36
maxwellito wrote: post #23

Excuse my silly question, but what's the point of pre-buying a game, if it will only exists as a downloadable copy. I get you want to gift it for xmas, but for the rest of players? The point of pre-sale is to make sure you will get one when it comes out?

There is speculation that the size on disk will be over 200Gb, so one advantage is preloading that.

Is this after aggressive optimization? Size inflation for AAA games has truly reached new heights. If it had to be released via physical media that would require 3-4 BD discs at minimum.

I've been on a retro gaming binge lately because I strongly believe the constraints & limitations of older platforms yielded a better product imo.

Re: GTA 6 will cost $80

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Post by crims0n »

justinsaccount wrote: post #47
crims0n wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which would be $94.29 in today's dollars.

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 launch price was $69.99. in 1994. That's $159.89 in today's dollars.

And this is why I roll my eyes when gamers complain about the cost of games these days - they have never been cheaper.
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