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Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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> Maybe colleges can just accept the best students If you want to see what a world where universities do that, check Europe in the 11th century. You might just like it

And if you want to see a world where colleges accept everyone, without requiring a minimum qualification, look at our current system: over 50% of students lack proficient literacy skills. It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college.

Actually, German universities accept everyone unless there are capacity problems, but what they do is have extremely aggressive "weed out" final exams in the first two semesters.

The degrees with the lowest attrition rates tend to be the ones that are gated behind high admission requirements (e.g. minimum high school grades).

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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In the USA, at least, "every student college bound" has led to colleges being simply more high school but at an enormous cost of creating indentured servents. It will be very hard to to force colleges to downsize to the appropriate population count. Lots of prestige and money on the line

the size of the cohort isnt the problem, its the enshrinement of catechisms that perpetuate a mentality of blue collar legacy.

Can you explain ? I understand each word but not the meaning of the whole sentence.

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

#54

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> Maybe colleges can just accept the best students If you want to see what a world where universities do that, check Europe in the 11th century. You might just like it

And if you want to see a world where colleges accept everyone, without requiring a minimum qualification, look at our current system: over 50% of students lack proficient literacy skills. It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college.

> It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college.

And it shouldn't be controversial to recognize that some students did not receive the $upport needed to succeed in college. Life isn't a meritocracy.

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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This assumes "IQ" is fixed, but it isn't.

IQ remains relatively stable through life: that’s what makes it a good measure of general intelligence, when tested appropriately. It’s even more predictive when you realize that the SAT/ACT are given a year or two before college: this isn’t tracking someone at age 5, but saying someone a year away from college lacks the skills and knowledge to perform well in class next year. If schools actually consistently applied…

> IQ remains relatively stable through life: that’s what makes it a good measure of general intelligence, when tested appropriately.

This is pointless if IQ tests can be gamed. It's like those leetcode tests. Smart folk can pass them. But so can anyone that practices for them or anything adjacent to them.

Thus you don't need to be smart to pass the leetcode tests, just have enough time and resources to practice them over and over until you pass.

And thus, it becomes a proxy for people who have the will and resources to practice enough till they pass.

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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> Maybe colleges can just accept the best students If you want to see what a world where universities do that, check Europe in the 11th century. You might just like it

You actually think universities have anything to do with how Europe was in the 11th century?

You have it wrong. Those universities were a reflection of society just like it is today with all the affirmative action stuff.

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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And if you want to see a world where colleges accept everyone, without requiring a minimum qualification, look at our current system: over 50% of students lack proficient literacy skills. It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college.

> It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college. And it shouldn't be controversial to recognize that some students did not receive the $upport needed to succeed in college. Life isn't a meritocracy.

It's not binary. Is it more of a meritocracy than other places or other times? I would say so, yes, more than most other places or most other times.

Re: Early adversity leaves lasting molecular imprint across the body: primate study

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IQ remains relatively stable through life: that’s what makes it a good measure of general intelligence, when tested appropriately. It’s even more predictive when you realize that the SAT/ACT are given a year or two before college: this isn’t tracking someone at age 5, but saying someone a year away from college lacks the skills and knowledge to perform well in class next year. If schools actually consistently applied…

> IQ remains relatively stable through life: that’s what makes it a good measure of general intelligence, when tested appropriately. This is pointless if IQ tests can be gamed. It's like those leetcode tests. Smart folk can pass them. But so can anyone that practices for them or anything adjacent to them. Thus you don't need to be smart to pass the leetcode tests, just have enough time and resources to practice them…

What? My argument is that people who aren’t intelligent will not be successful at college. Studying will not let you double your SAT score, but even if you study and pass the test, great: that’s demonstrating the skills needed for success in college.
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