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The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by Yeroc »

rabbitlord wrote: post #32
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #19

When I start exercising and tracking how many calories I burn, I realize how hard it is to outrun your diet. Thinking, "This cookie would cost me 35 minutes on the treadmill," is a huge deterrent. When I stop working out, I quickly forget what calories actually cost.

but that is also discouraging. For example, I just ran for 30 mins, but that only gives me half a cookie. Why the f do I even run?

Sure, but if you're trying to manage your weight it helps you to decide whether that cookie is worth it or not. If it's an Oreo cookie (or 3), I'll pass. If it's my wife's home made chocolate chip cookie I'll eat it (but not 2). It's a useful calibration for effort vs reward as opposed to eating a couple cookies without thinking about it.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by david_shi »

lbreakjai wrote: post #45

> Again, trying to literally count calories sucks and is demotivating. Setting up a rigid template for a week and then using it as a basic guide is sustainable and fun. I lost a huge amount of weight when I was younger (From above 100 kg to 60 kg). I then added 15 kg back slowly, about 1 kg a month, while working out. The most important thing I learned is that motivation is worth approximately nothing. It comes and i…

I think a lot of what people call failures of discipline actually comes from not having the tools they need. Someone who lives 15 miles away from the nearest gym will have a tougher time than someone who's gym is next door.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by xboxnolifes »

david_shi wrote: post #52
lbreakjai wrote: post #45

> Again, trying to literally count calories sucks and is demotivating. Setting up a rigid template for a week and then using it as a basic guide is sustainable and fun. I lost a huge amount of weight when I was younger (From above 100 kg to 60 kg). I then added 15 kg back slowly, about 1 kg a month, while working out. The most important thing I learned is that motivation is worth approximately nothing. It comes and i…

I think a lot of what people call failures of discipline actually comes from not having the tools they need. Someone who lives 15 miles away from the nearest gym will have a tougher time than someone who's gym is next door.

I've learned to hate, and almost feel like I've unlearned the meaning of, the word discipline. I'm not even sure it really exists. One may feel they accomplished something through discipline, but why did they have the discipline to do so? Why did they have the discipline but not someone else in a similar situation? Did they actually create it in themselves, or was it just always there?

Discipline, commonly, seems to just mean "doing it even if you don't feel like doing it". If you get yourself to do something when you don't want to do it, you've basically gotten yourself to want to do it at some level. How is that meaningfully different from motivation, or some other intrinsic force? The thought tends to bring me to thinking about free will, but that's getting away from the topic.

Instead, everything feels more like routines and setting up your environment for successfully doing the routines you want to have. Construct the environment, and the routine follows. Maybe for some people counting calories makes them less likely to follow through with a diet, so instead they should only stock healthy foods that they won't over eat. For some people it may be the opposite. Or as you say, live closer to the gym to increase the odds you'll actually go.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by nathan_compton »

photochemsyn wrote: post #9

Ancient Greek philosophy on mind-body developmental balance can help. A physically fit human with no intellectual development and a propensity to follow orders might be the fascist reinterpretation of the classical Spartan ideal, but this would have been viewed as unbalanced aberration. Similarly, producing geeky nerds who can rearrange complicated equations in their head with ease but who can’t run a mile or lift he…

When I was a kid there was a strong "nerd/jock" dichotomy. But now, according to my own kid, there isn't any such thing. I view this as good.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by vortep »

david_shi wrote: post #13

On the tracking point: I’ve found that a coding agent that can modify a file system (create and update CSVs) that’s accessible on both my laptop and phone to be the single best way to track things I’ve ever used. Bar none. Even apps with the best UX, like Strong for tracking workouts, feel exponentially clunkier than having an agent that can answer questions, analyze pictures, and write things down on a persistent fi…

Makes sense. Would you care to elaborate on your agent setup?

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by coldtea »

code_biologist wrote: post #28
coldtea wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can someone explain this to me? I try to stay under 2000 calories. To me it means eating almost nothing. 2000 is "almost nothing"? What are you used to eating? Is it regular natural food or food industry crap loaded with sugar and calories? Here's two examples of eating througout the day: - 1 cup Greek yogurt + 3/4 cup berries (~230 kcal) - 10.5 oz salmon + 5 oz baby potatoes + 5 spears asparagus (~750 kcal) - 1 ba…

This isn't enough for me as 82kg mid 30s man. I will lean out by 3-5 kilos and lose strength for lifting weights. What fats do you put on your potatoes + asparagus + vegetables, plus cooking fats for the meats? No idea how many cals "enough olive oil to lubricate" is. I consciously use cooking fats to creep in more healthy calories to sustain me.

>This isn't enough for me as 82kg mid 30s man.

Enough for what? For losing weight, as a 82kg/mid 30s they're fine. In fact, you can live forever (and live longer that on higher calories) on those.

And you don't need to lose that much to begin with if you're at 82kg and like 5' 8"+ anyway. Perhaps your "ideal" weight is like 70kg or so, but if you're average height and 82kg and active, no real need to hit that for general health.

>What fats do you put on your potatoes + asparagus + vegetables, plus cooking fats for the meats?

Spray some EVOO a few times. A few sprays (less than 1 tbsp total).

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by goodmythical »

Paracompact wrote: post #41
goodmythical wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Burning a thousand calories an hour on a treadmill is kind of high, isn't it? Like, you'd have to be pushing really hard for the entire hour to hit a thousand calories, wouldn't you? Brief search says us male is 200lb on avg, 200lb male burns just over 1000 in an hour at 8mph, average adult 10 mile is 1:17. Soo, 8 miles in an hour is 7:30 miles...10 in 1:17 is 7:42. Closer than I thought, I suppose, but definitely re…

250 in 25 minutes is 600/hour, not 1000/hour.

You are correct. I blame sixty minute hours.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by david_shi »

vortep wrote: post #55
david_shi wrote: post #13

On the tracking point: I’ve found that a coding agent that can modify a file system (create and update CSVs) that’s accessible on both my laptop and phone to be the single best way to track things I’ve ever used. Bar none. Even apps with the best UX, like Strong for tracking workouts, feel exponentially clunkier than having an agent that can answer questions, analyze pictures, and write things down on a persistent fi…

Makes sense. Would you care to elaborate on your agent setup?

I actually built my own daily driver at https://operator.io.

There's definite tradeoffs when it comes using a remote agent service vs. setting up OpenClaw or Hermes on a Mac Mini, but being able to access an agent with a completely isolated file system and network gives me peace of mind when I'm using it.

Re: The Harajuku Moment (2024)

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Post by cadamsdotcom »

socalgal2 wrote: post #15

> and was amazed at how many calories I would have to eat in order to stay the same weight. It was huge. Can someone explain this to me? I try to stay under 2000 calories. To me it means eating almost nothing. Let's say I have berries and yogurt. That ~300. Add a morning latte (no sugar). Now we're at 500. I've effectively had a tiny breakfast and already spent 1/4th of my calorie budget. Taking what I just ate and m…

You’re only tracking one of the variables.

It’s the deficit that matters - the intake is not enough info.

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