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Post by nickff »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #42
nickff wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that you think the US government is unpredictable and arbitrary, but that the People’s Republic of China is not? Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)? It seems to me that in the case of AI (as with many other modern technologies), you rely on vendor/creator support and updates to stay relevant, so the ‘next’ model ma…

Open weight models don’t allow central oversight. That’s the difference.

If you’re happy to use the current one forever, then yes. I was amending my comment above to address this when you posted yours.

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Post by wahnfrieden »

khalic wrote: post #37
seviu wrote: post #20

Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Yep, any American closed model is now a de facto existential risk for any company relying on them. The latest open models are so good it’s worth the 6-8 months delayed capabilities. At least for coding

I will use the best available while it is available. 8 months ago with Codex would be intolerable today.

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Post by spelk »

nickff wrote: post #31
seviu wrote: post #20

Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

Are you saying that you think the US government is unpredictable and arbitrary, but that the People’s Republic of China is not? Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)? It seems to me that in the case of AI (as with many other modern technologies), you rely on vendor/creator support and updates to stay relevant, so the ‘next’ model ma…

>Do you remember all the PRoC’s strange and sudden policy shifts (e.g. steel, real estate, education, football/soccer, etc.)?

I didn't realize I could download a Shanghai apartment.

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Post by tiahura »

sanderjd wrote: post #36
spullara wrote: post #2

Anthropic declares: "Mythos is too dangerous too release to the public" Proceeds to release Mythos plus safety guardrails as Fable. Amazon removes guardrails from Fable, getting access to Mythos. Government takes Anthropic's word for it and tells them to pull it until the guardrails can't be removed. They refuse. Government forces them.

> Amazon removes guardrails from Fable, getting access to Mythos. This doesn't seem like an accurate description to me. I think something like "Amazon demonstrates a jailbreak of one class of Fable guardrails" would be a more accurate description. It doesn't even really mess up your narrative to state it accurately, but your choice of a more hyperbolic statement brings into question the good faith of the narrative yo…

We really don't know for sure exactly what Amazon did. They're being quiet, the other parties aren't trustworthy, and the reporters mostly don't know what they're talking about.

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jimmydoe wrote: post #39

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Genuinely, if the policy is that this capability is too dangerous to be in private hands, and thus all "frontier" labs must be publicly owned, that would be a defensible policy (that I would disagree with). But picking and choosing preferred companies like this is just indefensible gangster stuff.

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seviu wrote: post #20

Anthropic employees are right, but maybe this is for good. It certainly has opened my eyes. I can’t rely on using a technology that the US administration can ban at will. IMO without getting into personal thoughts about how capable the current US administration is, last Friday move sent a very powerful signal to the industry. Also I don’t think China releasing so many good models, capable to compete with Opus 4.8 and…

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Post by rdtsc »

Didn't their CEO argue how super powerful and dangerous their AI models are and government should be able to restricting usage

https://abc7.com/post/anthropic-ceo-dario-amodei-calls-stron...

> "We're proposing stronger regulation of the technology, proposing giving the government the ability to, again, in a narrow way, block deployment of unsafe technology," he said.

The government: "We're restricting its usage to US citizens only"

Anthropic: "No, no, not like that! "

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