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Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by antonvs »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #13
antonvs wrote: post #8

It goes beyond lying. It's kind of war, and they're the aggressor. Everyone else needs to start treating them that way, or you're going to regret it once you realize what's actually happening.

Please please tell us so we're prepared. sad puppy eyes

There's plenty of discussion of this if you look for it. Some examples:

"Sanders Releases Report on Big Tech Oligarchs’ War Against Workers, Warns AI Could Eliminate Nearly 100 Million U.S. Jobs": https://www.help.senate.gov/dem/newsroom/press/news-sanders-...

"How the American Oligarchy Went Hyperscale": https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/american-oligar...

"AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear": https://www.sanders.senate.gov/op-eds/ai-is-a-threat-to-ever...

To be clear: I'm an extremely experienced software developer. I use AI daily. I'm currently working on training a DNN that's used in production by enterprise companies around the globe.

But there's absolutely no doubt that AI is being deployed as a weapon by the capitalist class against everyone else, and that's only going to amplify and get much, much worse. The issue is not necessarily the technology itself. The issue is how society permits it to be used.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by phendrenad2 »

antonvs wrote: post #51
phendrenad2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please please tell us so we're prepared. sad puppy eyes

There's plenty of discussion of this if you look for it. Some examples: "Sanders Releases Report on Big Tech Oligarchs’ War Against Workers, Warns AI Could Eliminate Nearly 100 Million U.S. Jobs": https://www.help.senate.gov/dem/newsroom/press/news-sanders-... "How the American Oligarchy Went Hyperscale": https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/american-oligar... "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People…

What does this have to do with the video?

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by Retric »

panarky wrote: post #39
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext. The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something. And because you missed it…

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

A major outstanding software bug for a year proves they have not “solved coding,” which was their claim.

I didn’t chose the words they used, but I can hold them to those words.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by fragmede »

ryan_n wrote: post #47
orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

> A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue. Hmm people say this all the time in these discussions but idk if I buy that it's really a "user issue". It's really, really not hard to "use" agentic ai. It literally involves instructing an llm to do things in natural language. Anyone who knows how to code and speak a language can do this. As you yourself seem to believe, even people who don't know how t…

you aren't, but there are other people out there that are having their agent write 100% of the code. Yes, there's a lot of people that aren't but also there are a lot of people that are. I don't think we can get an objective answer. I know we want cold hard facts, but turns out software in the real world contains more reading of star charts and tea leaves than we'd care to admit.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by antonvs »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #52
antonvs wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of discussion of this if you look for it. Some examples: "Sanders Releases Report on Big Tech Oligarchs’ War Against Workers, Warns AI Could Eliminate Nearly 100 Million U.S. Jobs": https://www.help.senate.gov/dem/newsroom/press/news-sanders-... "How the American Oligarchy Went Hyperscale": https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/american-oligar... "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People…

What does this have to do with the video?

From 3m50s in the video:

> I think they are lying, and I think they are hurting people. I think they're genuinely hurting people.

That hurting of people is part of the war that I mentioned. The rest of the video focuses quite heavily on this general issue. It gives specific examples, but they're representative.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by thraway3837 »

scooby7430 wrote: post #36
thraway3837 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. The only caveat I'd add is that I'm using an alternate account to agree with people who say that AI coding has been amazing, because there is a seemingly a good chunk of people who dislike it and it will be met with downvotes. Also because my real account has my real name in the profile along with projects I work on, and a simple search could reveal my pro-AI coding views and these same folks who downvote could…

Agreed. I think the opinion on AI is split into two camps, people who's enjoyment from programming came from writing the code and people who like building things. It's really undeniable at this point that AI has changed the job and I really enjoy it now more than ever, I can come up with an idea, guide an LLM through the steps to build it and have it be a real thing faster than I ever could have imagined. Yeah LLMs a…

Great take and I agree

Coding did have a certain amount of fun to it. When it was small. And needed to just do 1-2 things. Severely constrained in it's scope and impact. But, those were the QBasic days when I just made a cute app. That thinking has not scaled for applications of any size for decades now.

I want to make great stuff for people and AI removes all the hurdles. Interviewing for asinine things like reversing a binary tree on the white board and then being nitpicked on getting the loop index wrong and then being ghosted is what the tech culture has devolved into. And its 100% caused by programmers who have grown too big of an ego and failed to develop socially.

All of that is game over. It's done. In just under a year, the whole landscape has changed permanently. There are those that like help and create, and there are those that like to gatekeep simply because it makes them feel better. Nobody likes the latter.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by thraway3837 »

Jeremy1026 wrote: post #48
orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

This guy has been against AI from the very onset, and no matter what happens with AI going forward I think he'll always poopoo it.

This is the correct take. People who are closed minded and against this tool will always be against it, because they feel or think AI coding is an existential threat to them. If you think AI coding is going to replace your job, well, perhaps your job was just not all that important in the first place.

Sorry that sucks to hear, but the real talent lies in systems thinking. How to make things look good. How to make it usable for humans. How to make something exciting and remove the blocker that was programming effort. Everything else is still a hard problem. And those are all people problems. Just because computers can now spit out computer code doesn't mean all the problems are solved.

Case in point: As I comment on this article. The US govt has asked Claude to stop the export of the latest Fabel and Mythos models. And Anthropic decided it was just easier to disable those models for all users.

These things aren't simple decisions. And we're just barely getting started with AI coding. Can't wait for what 1 year from now looks like :)

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by thraway3837 »

thraway3837 wrote: post #19
orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

Yup. The only caveat I'd add is that I'm using an alternate account to agree with people who say that AI coding has been amazing, because there is a seemingly a good chunk of people who dislike it and it will be met with downvotes. Also because my real account has my real name in the profile along with projects I work on, and a simple search could reveal my pro-AI coding views and these same folks who downvote could…

And exactly as predicted: Downvoted to hell.

Thanks, but the world's changed and there's no going back. Hope you can change with it.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by MAustriaGA »

antonvs wrote: post #51
phendrenad2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please please tell us so we're prepared. sad puppy eyes

There's plenty of discussion of this if you look for it. Some examples: "Sanders Releases Report on Big Tech Oligarchs’ War Against Workers, Warns AI Could Eliminate Nearly 100 Million U.S. Jobs": https://www.help.senate.gov/dem/newsroom/press/news-sanders-... "How the American Oligarchy Went Hyperscale": https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/american-oligar... "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People…

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