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EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

I don't think that's true, but if it is then Iran would be foolish to make a deal right now.

Just in time for the big 4th of July celebrations. Happy Semiquincentennial!

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

Let's try to not glorify terrorism too much and still pretend the west do not target civilians and civilian infrastructure please. Remember, the pesky Arabs are the one who target civilians, that's why they are terrorists. We only occasionally target civilians, and when it happens, it's because they are evil and support an evil man, so we aren't.

Obligatory "Are we the baddies?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY for those who don't know this meme (the Dawkins definition of meme)

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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> based upon recent events Climate change has been in the zeitgeist for decades now. Pretty sure many people are cognizant of this and want to move away from fossil fuels. This is just a boost to do so.

That and governments pushing to ban non-EV cars over a certain timeline while subsidizing more expensive EVs. The most important thing right now in addition to fuel prices is how much cheaper EVs are getting because of innovation in China.

Interesting point, I wonder why governments haven't planted the idea in buyers that ICE cars will be getting more expensive to own (e.g. through taxes) in the coming 5-10 years. Then the thought of buying an ICE car now will also be less attractive because people know they won't be worth much in the 2nd hand market in 5-10 years.

But I suppose I see the answer, it's because of the car manufacturers employing many EU voters (in particular in Germany which is the 400kg gorilla in the EU), no government wants to piss off their voters.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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The carbon tax is supposed to finance things, what Trump has done is more like forcing the crisis. More like an acceleration

Well most of the increase in prices goes into petroleum companies' profits (at least the ones that can export). So it's technically not lost and will be invested somehow. Like a Carbon tax, the money doesn't disappear. But to whom it gets distributed, that's another story...

Yeah, definitely would’ve preferred a revenue neutral carbon tax and dividend, but that wasn’t happening anytime soon.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

Every country? Or just the US? Fuel is through the roof in most countries, Japan had to dedollarize (call in its USA loans) to buy oil and several Asian countries had to switch to 4-day workweeks to avoid riots and coups.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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post #16

And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

Gas prices nationwide have been dropping for a month, despite no peace treaty being signed. I don't understand it.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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I don't think that's true, but if it is then Iran would be foolish to make a deal right now.

Iran has no choice but to make a deal, if they don't want their country turned into a parking lot. With complete air superiority, taking their power plants and a few bridges would lead to complete economic collapse as seen in Cuba.

There is no evidence that the USA can or will turn Iran into a parking lot. Which countries, besides the USA, has the USA turned into parking lots so far?

There is plenty of evidence the strait will remain closed and the USA will continue dying until the USA surrenders. Notwithstanding that nice toddler-level reversal, "you can't close the strait, I'm closing the strait!"

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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post #55
post #16

And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

Every country? Or just the US? Fuel is through the roof in most countries, Japan had to dedollarize (call in its USA loans) to buy oil and several Asian countries had to switch to 4-day workweeks to avoid riots and coups.

Where are the climate change fanatics when you need them? Work from home Covid style would decrease oil consumption and oil prices.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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A silver lining to the storm clouds of war.

Yep, Trump enacted a de facto global carbon tax.

First taxing carbon with a blockade, now taxing animal meat with screwworm. I wonder what bad thing he'll accidentally destroy next, maybe the military industrial complex?

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

Gas prices nationwide have been dropping for a month, despite no peace treaty being signed. I don't understand it.

Higher order effects are impossible to predict.
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