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Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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I’m pretty sure non-human tigers have been killing humans for ages.

Tigers can initiate global thermal nuclear war? What a comment

Drones can’t either.

Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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It most likely does not recognize the sign. Last I saw, after years of furious development they were still unable to recognize standard "Do Not Enter", "Road Closed", and "One Way" signs in the US. Here is a video [1] from a week ago where it fails to recognize a clearly visible "Do Not Enter" sign with "One Way" road indications. [1] https://bsky.app/profile/realdanodowd.bsky.social/post/3mnhw...

I think that is worse. There are only a few hundred traffic signs in use in Europe and even I could write a supervised learning model in an afternoon that could recognize all of them with very low uncertainty. And if I had Tesla budget I could easily have a tiny portion of my workers label enough data in another afternoon. If this is true, and Tesla does not do this, that means that somewhere up in Tesla’s chain of c…

You went from ignoring Hanlon's razor in one comment straight to duning Kruger's in your next.

Seems like you just don't like musk and have to find a bad reason...

Personally I like the idea of ideas > event > people...

If I'm wrong on this post and you are really that capable I'd suggest you go work for comma.io because self driving cars/vehicles is definitely in top 5 of best upcoming inventions.

Good luck!

Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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Really, your first instinct is: "The journalists are engaging in a baseless smear campaign." The video evidence clearly demonstrates it engaging in a clearly signed illegal maneuver that it should never have even begun. Furthermore, your mischaracterization of the video is significant. The car straightens out having crossed the pedestrian walkway clearly indicated on the dash screen. The dash screen clearly indicates…

Unfortunately journalists do engage in baseless smear campaigns? This seems like a legitimate concern

You may be not wrong but it literally didn't cross my mind. I just didn't notice the car going into the lane in the video after watching it first 3 times. The guy who replied to me with a wall of text just wants to go off topic.

Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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Tigers can initiate global thermal nuclear war? What a comment

Drones can’t either.

Take Drone. Attempt assassination of nuclear armed leader.

Leader fires nuclear weapons.

Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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Drones can’t either.

Take Drone. Attempt assassination of nuclear armed leader. Leader fires nuclear weapons.

Same can be achieved with a tiger.

Re: Tesla Full Self Driving uses bicycle lane in official Denmark approval video

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> An issue with that approach is that a lot of humans violate traffic laws, so you have the danger that your self driving system learns to violate traffic laws. Phrased another way, a benefit of that approach is that if the local conditions necessitate or advise breaking certain traffic rules, your system learns to do so while retaining plausible deniability that it isn't intentional.

It's not that plausible, unless the idea is that differing traffic laws is some obscure concept.

The point isn't whether it's genuinely plausible or not. If there is some law against something, there is some group of people who believe very strongly that this law should be followed and enforced. If the law is not actually followed or enforced, then the system as a whole does not agree with that small group. The point of this "plausible deniability" is to allow whichever regulator is concerned to give a pass to rule breaking without explictly doing so and hence angering this small group.
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