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cloned horses are good at competitive sailing also?!?
Surprisingly yes!
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Pedigree is often a scam. I know a peer of the realm who made pretty much his entire fortune on forged horses - he was breeding to make fast horses, but the pedigree was a load of, well, horseshit. All started because he’d bought a stallion who shot blanks. Now it’s all about eight generations deep so he’s safe at this point, as they’re their own pedigree now. Oh, and don’t even get me started on cows. There's a whol…
I can only agree. Hard. It's less about the horse, the speed, the actual genetics - it's all about the process, the appearance, the gate-keeping. Country Clubs for horses (and cows, etc)
Turns out they made a little more than just a few piddly guns...
>“It was the same,” he recalls. “Same movements, same head.... I couldn’t believe it.” My grandpa said the same thing, first time he saw me.
The thing is, what if there's an even better horse out there? Once you get on the cloning bandwagon, don't you also lock yourself out of looking/evolving an even better horse?
> what if there's an even better horse out there Doesn't matter, such things threaten the horse investor lock in economics. Many years past, an early bit of software from my student days was a side project making an easy to use database system for a horse stud farm, high status stallions being put to mares with the feed, vet visits, results, etc. all logged. Horse racing is pretty much all about pedigree - without th…
I feel like I am missing a lot.
The thing is, what if there's an even better horse out there? Once you get on the cloning bandwagon, don't you also lock yourself out of looking/evolving an even better horse?
I’m not a polo player but in most games if you’ve already hit the 99.99th percentile, it’s not wise to roll the dice hoping to do better.
Humans can likely be cloned too. Imagine 10,000 Albert Einsteins and John von Neumanns working together with modern AI on medical, scientific, and societal issues. Though there could be an Evil Einstein due to upbringing or something.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops. (quote by Stephen Jay Gould)
> At the slightest touch of the reins, he felt a familiarity that shook him... Ah... Some good, old, pre-AI journalism slop. Oh the countless times a universities press release has been turned into four pages describing the smell of coffee some scientist inhales on their way through campus...
The thing is, what if there's an even better horse out there? Once you get on the cloning bandwagon, don't you also lock yourself out of looking/evolving an even better horse?
The simple version of the problem is you ride about 1/e of the total population and then the first one that is better than all previous ones is your best option. For a pro polo player who would also breed and train others in the off season, over a multi-decade career, it's not perfect, but in aggregate, they are positioned to be pretty good.
Will there be black swan horses? Absolutely. They aren't even black swans, they're inevitable, but if your goal in the sport is to compound your average performance over time without significant setbacks (loss of a prize horse), then cloning a top player's best horse is a good bet.
I find the ethical discussions around horse cloning and sports lack a lot of domain competence in both what riding is, and the stewardship and biology it entails. From a sensory and ontological perspective, a horse is basically an alien being with a peanut sized brain that it falls to our species to be responsible for its existence. Cloning a few to adapt them for survival in our world is profoundly more humane than selling the surplus from breeding programs for meat or leaving them for predators and disease. Even though the philosophers comments about objectification were paraphrased for publication, their perspective is dumb.
The thing is, what if there's an even better horse out there? Once you get on the cloning bandwagon, don't you also lock yourself out of looking/evolving an even better horse?
Could this happen if every polo horse basically ends up genetically identical? Probably not in the same way but new diseases do appear. Parvo is only 50 years old.
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Though we are not yet competitive in the Argentinian Polo clone wars, we are making significant progress - https://www.satyress.com/
This has to be some kind of kink thing. Not judging, just how it looks from first appearances.