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An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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I don’t see how to blame our society for copper thieves.

Lack of healthcare, limited job opportunities, growing income inequality, are just a few reasons off the top of my head.

Local copper thieves that were busted stealing telco lines... they were just looking to make a quick buck regardless of legality or care for the impact it had on other people. They're more like tech company CEOs, really.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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I don’t see how to blame our society for copper thieves.

Right, why didn't everyone just get good education, dental care, and healthcare, get a car when they're 16, have their parents help them go to college and work for a VC and get rich. Just can't understand it. Truly, an enigma.

My general rule for posting sarcasm is to phrase it seriously first and see if it's something I still want to post.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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I don’t see how to blame our society for copper thieves.

Right, why didn't everyone just get good education, dental care, and healthcare, get a car when they're 16, have their parents help them go to college and work for a VC and get rich. Just can't understand it. Truly, an enigma.

This is what nobody wants to admit, whether it's nature or nurture doesn't matter because you're not in control of either of them. You were born into so and so of a family, and they brought you up with such and such care and values.

The idea that you've been "force of willing" it through your whole life since infancy and are therefore solely accountable for your outcome is absurd. We know that at some level and yet still can't help taking credit for our nice things and passing judgment on others for their failings.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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I’d suggest considering empathy once you get past the anger, their former selves would be equally repulsed by their behavior, and for many I expect their current selves feel similarly despite their lack of control. The villains here aren’t the broken people.

The villains are those of us who tolerate this kind of behavior in the name of compassion.

You shouldn't tolerate the behavior, but announcing disgust for people who are struggling is just not helpful.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Working backwards from clues in the article, thief maybe stole 200-400 ft of wire. Assuming between 3-1/8″ - 6-1/8″ diameter. Somewhere between $1,360 - $6,400 of scrap value. $70k-$100k to repair... Absurd.

Other than those who commit grave offenses of bodily harm, I reserve my greatest disgust for the type of dirtbag who imposes these orders-of-magnitude greater costs on other innocent people for such a relatively low "reward." They'd burn the Mona Lisa for fuel, melt down the Statue of Liberty for scrap, anything if you let them. I agree with another commenter here, the overlap of this mindset with tweakers is large.

A topic I'm interested in that is upstream of what you're saying is the propagation of meaning. If somebody has no idea what the Mona Lisa or the Statue of Liberty are, then we can't really bemoan that they would not ascribe any value to it beyond its raw material.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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post #34

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I’d suggest considering empathy once you get past the anger, their former selves would be equally repulsed by their behavior, and for many I expect their current selves feel similarly despite their lack of control. The villains here aren’t the broken people.

The villains are the people who let these people continue to commit crimes and make life worse for others in the name of empathy instead of quickly and forcefully moving them into compassionate care where they have any chance of recovering and joining the vast majority as contributors to society.

Compassionate care does not exist for people like this.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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I don’t see how to blame our society for copper thieves.

Right, why didn't everyone just get good education, dental care, and healthcare, get a car when they're 16, have their parents help them go to college and work for a VC and get rich. Just can't understand it. Truly, an enigma.

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Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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The villains are the people who let these people continue to commit crimes and make life worse for others in the name of empathy instead of quickly and forcefully moving them into compassionate care where they have any chance of recovering and joining the vast majority as contributors to society.

Compassionate care does not exist for people like this.

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Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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probably $10 of meth to harm a body so that it eventually needs $50k of medical work, or $100k of dental work

10 dollars? Who's your meth guy?

GP is talking out of his ass - he’s probably not up to speed on meth economics like you and me.
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